Palin stepping down as Alaska governor

[TexasR.N.]

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Originally Posted by AgentAustin

I am 14, [b]As a 14 y/o you have a lot to learn. This is a great opportunity to listen to the "otherside" and not the drivel you have been indoctrinated with at school, your media sources, or other 14 y/o friends./B]I will get my permit in 21 days....

I think I get what you are trying to say, it makes perfect sense...

I'll try to make mine make sense here....


If the wealthy lived on a hill, and the lower class lived in the valley....
If we cut a little bit off the hill, and put it in the valley would could even it out. The wealthy would have a little less money and power, while the lower class would have enough money to have health care, jobs, a voice.

You and your parents need to sell the material possessions y'all have and then distribute the money to some of the members here on the ORG who are down on their luck.

Never mind the fact that your parents worked their butts off to obtain the aforementioned possessions.

Originally Posted by AgentAustin

They completely failed to manage the first large-scale emergency since 9/11. Despite all their big talk and hundreds of billions of dollars spent on homeland security over the past four years, this administration proved itself stunningly incompetent when faced with an actual emergency. Where were the subsequent attacks on the continental United States since 9/11? Do you think any other nation could have taken the economic damage we took and recovered as fast as we did? Maybe you are speaking of Katrina. In that case there is PLENTY of blame to spread around. People who refused to leave with a CAT 5 hurricane heading their way to an incompetent mayor and governor who wouldn't issue evacuation orders. When they did, failed to use city buses that could have gotten an untold number out of harms way. If people were more self-sufficient and depended less on the government they would be better off. But no, over the decades they have had dependency instilled in them by liberals wanting a nanny state.


America is broke. No wait, we're worse than broke. In less than five years these borrow and spend-thrifts have nearly doubled our national debt, to a stunning $8.2 trillion.Bush inherited (obamas chosen word) an recession from clinton, guided the nation thru 9/11, fought two wars, so yes, spending occurred. But unlike the party you are too young to vote for, we CONSERVATIVES (not R or D's) refused to vote these prolific spenders back in after they didn't listen to us. These Republicans waste money in ways and in quantities that make those old tax and spend liberals of yore look like tight-fisted Scots. Maybe you haven't been paying attention to current events. But it is your dear leader is spending money we have no way of repaying without placing an UNBEARABLE tax burden on my kids and future grandkids.

This administration is so incompetent that you can just throw a dart at the front page of your morning paper and whatever story of importance it hits will prove my point. A liberal media that slanted news stories to their point of view. A news media that compromised the safety of our troops and this nation by disclosing information that in past administrations (R or D) that would have never been disseminated in a time of war.


Good managers know that in order to pocket the gains of a project, you have to finish it. This administration started out fine in Afghanistan. They had the Taliban and al Queda on the run and Osama bin Laden trapped in a box canyon. Then they were distracted by a nearby shiney object -- Iraq. So at 14 you are now the boy warrior? Wars are fluid, constantly changing, your priority one moment can change in the blink of an eye. Muslim extremist are not static, and will move and find new areas to exploit. Now let's discuss little innocent Iraq sitting in the corner minding is own business. In 1990 Iraq invaded Kuwait. By the spring of 1991 Iraq had its head handed to them by the US and a coalition of forces. Iraq agreed to a cease fire RESOLUTION 687 (1991) Adopted by the Security Council at its 2981st meeting, on 3 April 1991 to end hostilities. It then violated this cease fire agreement 17 times. Why is this important? Let's go back even further to WW I (that's world war one for those of you in rio linda ) The Germans were forbidden to have troops in Rhineland. When Hitler took power he violated the treaty of Versailles by moving troops into the Rhineland to test the response of the French. The French (who had quite a significant army at the time) did nothing The History Place - Triumph of Hitler
Military History Online - The True Strategy of Blitzkrieg
This embolden Hitler as we see later on 1939 - 1945. So how is this relevant to current times? By this tried and true phrase...The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. We are now $75 billion out of pocket in Afghanistan and its sitting president still rules only within the confines of the nation's capital. Tribal warlords, the growing remnants of the Taliban and al Qaeda call the shots in the rest of the county. What would you have our dear leader do? He has been in charge for close to 7 months. Why hasn't he used his great understanding and knowledge and figured a way to defeat the taliban / muslin extremist or bring them to the peace table?


It's easier to get affordable -- even free -- American-style medical care, paid for with American dollars, if you are injured in Iraq, Afghanistan or are victims of a Pakistani earthquake, than if you live and pay taxes in the good old U.S.A. At 14 a boy warrior and a health care specialist. Who do you think is providing alot of this health care? We are. Do you think these 3rd world countries have a fraction of the quality or ability to provide health care that we do? Before you go regurgitating lies and spouting your mouth off, about topics you know nothing about you should do your research Look up EMTALA. Do you see thousands or even hundreds of Americans dying on the our streets on a daily basis? No! Because anyone and everyone who wants / needs medical treatment gets it in AmericaNearly 50 million Americans can't afford medical insurance. Did you factor in that not everyone wants insurance? That this number includes people that lost coverage but then regained insurance coverage within a year? That it also includes illegals who are not eligible for insurance because of their immigration status....ILLEGAL Nevertheless the administration has proposed a budget that will cut $40 billion from domestic social programs, including health care for the working poor. The administration is quick to say that those services will be replaced by its "faith-based" programs. Not so fast...


America now runs secret prisons and a secret judicial system that would give Kafka fits. You do realize that tour dear leader is continuing this practice right? And the U.S. has joined the list of nations that tortures prisoners war. Are you calling the terrorist POW's. Because you do realize under the Geneva Convention that they are not POW's. Now about torture, are you referring to waterboarding as torture? Do you realize that an untold number of our service men and women have had this done to them in SERE schools and other places to prepare them for what could be done to them? They manage to fit back into society with no apparent harm done. Now for real torture, let's try this scenario. A terrorist who has info about someone close to you who is going to be beheaded is captured. Torture will get the answers needed to save this individual. Will you be in favor of torturing this terrorist or will the person you know have to die? Just a few....

Originally Posted by AgentAustin

Obama is a large step for this country, we can finally get over the discrimination to a certain point, Really? Eric Holder the AG said we are cowards when it comes to race. In addition, when pressed with a question about a preacher who is physically attacked by a gay person, because of the beliefs the preacher holds, would that be a hate crime Holder said no. "[Sen.] Jeff Sessions [R-Ala.] presents a hypothetical where a minister gives a sermon, quotes the Bible about homosexuality and is thereafter attacked … by a gay activist because of what the minister said about his religious beliefs and what Scripture says about homosexuality. Is the minister protected?"

No, said Holder.

"Well, the statute would not – would not necessarily cover that. We're talking about crimes that have a historic basis. Groups who have been targeted for violence as a result of the color of their skin, their sexual orientation, that is what this statute tends – is designed to cover. We don't have the indication that the attack was motivated by a person's desire to strike at somebody who was in one of these protected groups. That would not be covered by the statute," Holder stated.

except here apparently. He has to fix all of the things that bush screwed with, it will be a couple years before you see all the good things he is doing, Facts man, facts! because bush got us in the hole so much. It takes a while to fill the hole back in.

Schools in junior. You have a lot to learn. Not everything that comes out of some liberals yap hole is the God's honest truth. If you choose to reply you had better do so with facts that don't just come from wikipedia, huffington post, or some other liberal strong hold.

Before you do anything read the Declaration of Independence and give the Constitution a good looking over.

Craig

[kingchip]

Originally Posted by rankroddin250

WELLLLLLLL........ there was that "one thing".......



But he did a prety good job after that.

He did a damm good job with what was dealt. He took the battlefield immediately out of the US.

His only downfall IMO was letting the libs have their way with the housing situation in exchange for war support.

[ianstew]

see what you did kid? you made craig beak out the red font again! hah, you got

[AgentAustin]

Originally Posted by ianstew

see what you did kid? you made craig beak out the red font again! hah, you got

I can see that I won't change your decisions, so I won't try...


But look, someone liked him because he is president, lol....

[ianstew]

Originally Posted by AgentAustin

I can see that I won't change your decisions, so I won't try...


But look, someone liked him because he is president, lol....

well, when you preach to the people you can fix every problem they have, and use shady tactics to gain support, then what do you expect? Why not actually research these issues before coming on here and spouting your liberal rhetoric. it's kids like you that are gonna grow up and be responsible for this nation. And that scares the crap out of me. Your generation is going to be responsible for my children's future. I'll bet you can't even explain how the government actually works, or what the the founding fathers had in mind when they laid the framework of our country. you need to read kid, and read alot. base your decisions on knowledge, not propaganda. If you have any questions, rel legitimate questions, post them up in the polotics thread, we'll give you a straight forward answer. i hate to see a young man like yourself steer down a path that leads to nowhere.

[FordGuy100]

Originally Posted by ianstew

see what you did kid? you made craig beak out the red font again! hah, you got

I knew Craig was going to do it .

[Clay Henry]

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[TexasR.N.]

Originally Posted by AgentAustin

I can see that I won't change your decisions, so I won't try...

, lol....

If you are going to run with the big dogs you can't pee like a puppy.

If you are going to espouse these liberal positions back them up. Don't take the easy way out.......I can see that I won't change your decisions, so I won't try, But look, someone liked him because he is president....somebody else tried that crap and got his political head handed to him.

The reason you can't change our decisions is because a lot of us have graduated from the school of hard knocks. We have seen what works and what doesn't. We have busted our a$$es doing all manner of jobs, served our country, earned our possessions honestly, and not asking for a hand out along the way. We have read the Constitution, and while we may not be scholars we know our way around it. And we are damn sure not about to roll over for some arrogant socialist / borderline fascist and give it all away because others wouldn't get off their baby making a$$es and be productive members of society.

And in closing, is this what we are down to when it comes to libs on this site. A 14 y/o defending policies of our dear leader? A 14 y/o who is lecturing us on the benefits of socialism? Tell us boy wonder what are the benefits of a conservative government, what are the pros of a conservative society? Have your teachers even broached this side of the argument?

Craig

BTW at least man up and answer the torture question.

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Last edited by TexasR.N. : 07-04-2009 at 02:10 PM. Reason: Because I want an answer to the torture question!

[bockhold]

Originally Posted by AgentAustin

Lol... It was a joke...

The concert was Green Day, don't think that is exactly cute.

green day them selfs are anti american hands down

Originally Posted by ianstew

see what you did kid? you made craig beak out the red font again! hah, you got

[RRonning1984]

Holy crap are you guys still trying to fight this freaking Special Olympic political fight against the smartest 14 year old in the world

For Christ sake, lock this SOB!