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Old 05-06-2009, 10:06 AM
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What do you think?

I am not a illegal immigrant advocate, but I think that this man's service should grant him citizenship (which he got 5 years after the war) and nominate him for some medal of bravery if not the Medal of Honor. I know we have a few military members here, and others that might have a different opinion on this.

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Lawmakers seek Medal of Honor for illegal
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:21 AM
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My only fear is the word illegal. If a man comes to the border, applies for citizenship and says hey, sign me up for the Army, that is fine. He would need to be able to speak fluid English, and have some type of completed education.

But for them to just go down the streets and pickup anyone who could pass the physical and then have bi-lingual training - now that is an issue in my opinion.

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Old 05-06-2009, 10:25 AM
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I don't mind in this case; however, I do not agree that if an illegal signs solely for the purpose of gaining citezenship. That's volunteering under different circumstances and I don't think that's the best idea for our military.
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:32 AM
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But for them to just go down the streets and pickup anyone who could pass the physical and then have bi-lingual training - now that is an issue in my opinion.

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I do not think it was to much of an issue almost a hundred years ago.

In todays Modern day military I agree with you but back
then if you could stand and shoot a rifle you qualified for Trench Warfare
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:50 AM
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I do not think it was to much of an issue almost a hundred years ago.

In todays Modern day military I agree with you but back
then if you could stand and shoot a rifle you qualified for Trench Warfare
Yeah, todays military requires you to have some college credits if you have a GED in some cases just to be able to sign up!

Need professionals today. Not just warm bodies to be used for cannon fodder.
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Times Change. Given the circumstances THEN, and what he did, I would say yes, he earned it. Fighting for your adopted country is one of the most vivid ways to show where your loyalties are.

NOWADAYS- one problem is we need to be careful, or we'll have a mercenary army of citizens of other countries. what happens if 25% of our military is comprised of foriegn nationals, and then we go to war with their home country?

But, having spent 3 1/2 years watching AFN, one series of filler spots they run is that anyone in uniform, who is NOT a US citizen, can apply for citizenship and all fees are waived. Considering the hardships inherant in military life, yes, I'd fully support citizenship for anyone who's completed at least one enlistment. And, I'd support awarding any and all decorations earned by a LEGAL immigrant who is serving his/her soon to be adopted country.
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Old 05-06-2009, 01:13 PM
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I think that service should be a consideration when applying for citizenship, but not the only thing. On the other hand, they can just get someone pregnant, or get pregnant, and they are a shoe in, so that angle sucks. Might as well get something out of them, cuz they are here to stay.

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My only fear is the word illegal. If a man comes to the border, applies for citizenship and says hey, sign me up for the Army, that is fine. He would need to be able to speak fluid English, and have some type of completed education.

But for them to just go down the streets and pickup anyone who could pass the physical and then have bi-lingual training - now that is an issue in my opinion.

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I'm sure this was a typing error LOL (fluid English)
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Old 05-06-2009, 01:27 PM
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My english is different after lots of fluid.
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I know a lot of Women that go in the service and get pregnant and reap all kinds of benefits never having to really serve. I know that is not all of them but definitely a sore spot for me because I have seen alot of that in only 5 years active duty.
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