No Liquids, Then Ziplock Bags, Now R/C Cars!!!

[TwinTurboStroker]

I was watching the news this morning and they had a special report on the TSA and what they are looking for now.....and its Radio Controlled Cars, apparently someone on you tube posted a video on how to build a bomb with an R/C car and it has the airports in a panic and they were warning parents that children with R/C cars will be searched and patted down ......this also brings me to me next rant.....those stupid Ziplock bags that you are now allowed to carry your "liquids" in, when they said no liquids at all, of course once you were through security you could go buy another bottle of water ....what the hell is a Ziplock bag going to do? Don't get the wrong idea I for one believe in airline security and don't mind waiting in line for peace mind for safety, but this is getting a little ridiculous...

[Ditty]

The RC Toy thing is due to a credable threat. Meaning someone, somewere in the world tried it and TSA is protecting against it. Same w/ the liquids thing. TSA is the reason that I drive when I can to travel. I can take anything I want and it's a little more fun. This RC toy issue has been on the news for the past few days. It's really nothing new. Why are you traveling with an RC toy anyways???

[TwinTurboStroker]

Originally Posted by Ditty

Why are you traveling with an RC toy anyways???

Because I was thinking about getting one of these.... to past time in the airport running and climbing over people's bags and feet
Tamiya America Item #58372 | RC Ford F350 High-Lift - 4X4-3SPD

And I don't want it taken away....

[Ditty]

Well, if that is the case, then I hope you don't mind being detained a little at the airport!!! LOL

[720Deere]

I do a fair amount of work at BWI Airport in Baltimore and I can tell you if you were running one of those around the terminal you would most definitely get a violent cavity search!

We sometimes do work on airport property more than 3 miles from the terminal in the middle of nowhere and still have to have at least one person with security clearance on-site. Airport security gets more stringent every day. We price some of our contracts for a 3 year period. Trying to cover all of your costs when the security requirements change daily is impossible. The airports pay 3 to 5 times the price of what it would cost to do anything in the private sector. Even at those rates it's tough to make money on the work.

[TwinTurboStroker]

[quote=720Deere;277830]if you were running one of those around the terminal you would most definitely get a violent cavity search!

......I think I'll leave the truck at home then......but on a serious note, can someone please explain the Ziplock bag theory to me???

[720Deere]

It would be incredibly easy to carry anthrax or any other biological agent in a ziplock bag. A ziplock would also make it easy to deploy that agent by no more than squeezing the bag and popping the seal. That's my best guess.

[geekdownrange]

Originally Posted by TwinTurboStroker

......I think I'll leave the truck at home then......but on a serious note, can someone please explain the Ziplock bag theory to me???

The "one quart ziplock bag" serves two purposes:

1) It puts an upper limit on the amount of liquids that can be carried through security.

2) It makes it easy for TSA to check the liquids. Since they aren't spread across the 97 pockets, zippers, flaps, etc of a carryon or laptop bag combo the search and check goes much more quickly.

The issue isn't the amount of liquids carried onto the plane, the issue is the amount of liquids carried through security. Do some quick Googling for "Bojinka" and you can read about actual terrorist use of liquid explosives. Wikipedia link to get started.

Bojinka was a Ramzi Youseff plot from the mid-90s. The devices were tested operationally and caused a fatality on an aircraft in flight. The threat has been real and credible since that time or before. The plotters in the UK were not planning anything new or original.

-Brian

[TwinTurboStroker]

Originally Posted by 720Deere

It would be incredibly easy to carry anthrax or any other biological agent in a ziplock bag. A ziplock would also make it easy to deploy that agent by no more than squeezing the bag and popping the seal. That's my best guess.

No, no I guess I didn't word it right.... I understand the no or limited liquids on the plane because of the many different biological agents that are out there, I'm asking what is the purpose of the Ziplock bag for the TSA?

[TwinTurboStroker]

Originally Posted by geekdownrange

The "one quart ziplock bag" serves two purposes:

1) It puts an upper limit on the amount of liquids that can be carried through security.

2) It makes it easy for TSA to check the liquids. Since they aren't spread across the 97 pockets, zippers, flaps, etc of a carryon or laptop bag combo the search and check goes much more quickly.

The issue isn't the amount of liquids carried onto the plane, the issue is the amount of liquids carried through security. Do some quick Googling for "Bojinka" and you can read about actual terrorist use of liquid explosives. Wikipedia link to get started.

Bojinka was a Ramzi Youseff plot from the mid-90s. The devices were tested operationally and caused a fatality on an aircraft in flight. The threat has been real and credible since that time or before. The plotters in the UK were not planning anything new or original.

-Brian

Ah ha, there is the answer I was looking for....thanks man