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Old 07-16-2008, 02:51 AM
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i'm going through the same thing with my younger sister. i'm 25 and she is 17 and needs a vehicle for school and i told her i would help to buy, not buy her one. i personaly have a 95 psd with 211,000k and i work it pretty hard with no real issues aside from my injector o-rings, but that was a $50 and half afternoon job to fix. i also have another 95 on the ranch that we beat like a red-headed step child and it has never broke outside normal wear and tear. i'd look at the 95-97 obs truck because of their proven reliability, low price, and the availability of replacement parts for cheap both new and used. pick one up for a good price and save that extra $ for normal repairs, insurance, mods, and the inevitable tickets that are going to come.
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Old 07-16-2008, 02:53 AM
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i also think that you should make him pay for part of it. i know i was rough on my first few trucks, but not as much as i would have been if i hadn't paid for them out of my pocket. just my 2 cents
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:48 AM
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Buy him what he wants, that way when he screws it up you can say " No I am not fixing it" And you should have bought the Ford. LOL

Seriously, I beat the crap out of my first few vehicals even though I payed for them myself. I had a little 4 cylinder Mazda ( same as a Ranger almost ) and peeled tires every where I could. That was my second vehical BTW.

Restrain yourself from wanting to give to your son.IMO, A 30 - 50 thousand dollar truck???? Buy your self the newer truck and sell him the older one, that way when he payes it off, he can sell it if he wants, and then buy the Cummins.Even if he sells it back to you, It's like a savings account with his Dad ( you )



Best Powerstroke? My 02 has been pretty reliable. I have had 2 gasser Dodges with automatic trannies. Blew both trans from pulling a load, will never buy a Dodge again, just my opinion. So... TO ME, any Powerstroke is better than no Powerstroke, and damn sure beats no truck at all. Beggers can not be choosers
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:05 AM
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o yeah and if you get the cummins dont get and auto it will blow i and u should kno hes gettin do some serious greenlight/redlight drags so manual with an upgraded clutch and ur gonna want to buy him a smarty so he can start smokin right away. 1995spd the reason i said the 24v i heard theyre better and hav a higherr power level than the 12v but the 12v i kno u can do some performance upgrades before spendin a cent.
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:46 AM
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if ur gonna get a diesel for i would go w a 7.3 they are bullet proof

if not a get a tacoma the are good lil trucks
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:49 AM
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i love the powerstrokes and all and im usually dogging the cummins but seriously, the cummins is probably your best bet
and dont let him put mud tires in it
he will be puttin some hard miles on it and mud tires dont last if the driver dose alot of raod miles and a burnout here and there-wich he will do, even if you think he wont
but the cummins is going to be cheaper most likley and you can get close to 350 hp (i think) for free and yes he will be blowing smoke
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:35 PM
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Take it from someone who had everything given to him when he was a kid, let the lil guy pay for it himself!!! Yeah, he might still beat on it some, but he will respect it more, and give him a good grasp on life before he really needs to get out there. And if he gets tickets and suspensions, let him deal with the consequences of his actions.

My parents gave me everything when I was young and dumb, bought the wheels, paid for insurance, gas, paid my tickets, paid reinstatement fees, and I didn't respect a thing, didn't care much. My learning curve came when the consequences of my actions gave me 2 and a 1/2 years in jail. Grew up REAL quick then.

And Btw, I was also a honors student, had a steady job, and was what most would say a good kid. He wont learn from the experience unless he has to do it himself. Help if you want, but help with guidance, not with wallet. That's what your there for. I've learned alot from my mistakes, use my personal life lessons to help yours.

Btw, I'm 31 now, and will not be giving my daughter a car when she can drive. I was planning on matching whatever she has saved to buy her a car. Seems like the right mix of parent wanting to help, and childs personal responsibility.
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:45 AM
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Take it from someone who had everything given to him when he was a kid, let the lil guy pay for it himself!!! Yeah, he might still beat on it some, but he will respect it more, and give him a good grasp on life before he really needs to get out there. And if he gets tickets and suspensions, let him deal with the consequences of his actions.

My parents gave me everything when I was young and dumb, bought the wheels, paid for insurance, gas, paid my tickets, paid reinstatement fees, and I didn't respect a thing, didn't care much. My learning curve came when the consequences of my actions gave me 2 and a 1/2 years in jail. Grew up REAL quick then.

And Btw, I was also a honors student, had a steady job, and was what most would say a good kid. He wont learn from the experience unless he has to do it himself. Help if you want, but help with guidance, not with wallet. That's what your there for. I've learned alot from my mistakes, use my personal life lessons to help yours.

Btw, I'm 31 now, and will not be giving my daughter a car when she can drive. I was planning on matching whatever she has saved to buy her a car. Seems like the right mix of parent wanting to help, and childs personal responsibility.

I really enjoyed reading that, it validates my own ideas about child raising, thanks for sharing.




My stepson got his license Friday, he is now driving my old 69 F-100 that I made him help fix up and get running again. Last year when we started both him and his mother fought me pretty hard. Now he is proud to be driving the old beat up truck and keeps it clean and seems to be taking care of it so far. He got a job at Dairy Queen yesterday and plans to pay his own gas, insurance, going out expenses, and save to buy his own car so we can pass the 69 on to his brother next year.

Oh and my insurance lady says the Law here is if he gets any kinda ticket in the first 6 months he will loose his license until he is 18 and then he would be considered high risk to reinsure. Seems times have changed since my young days, things are a lot more serious these days.

Oh and if it were me I’d push for a Ford ranger, I’ve had my 94 4.0 for about 12 years now and have abused, worked, redlined, and raced it almost everyday with little to no repairs beside regular maintenance. Gets 21mpg and is relatively strong and fast.
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Old 07-17-2008, 08:06 AM
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Get him a 7.3 I love mine 205,000 miles and counting
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Old 07-17-2008, 08:31 AM
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I really enjoyed reading that, it validates my own ideas about child raising, thanks for sharing.

Oh and if it were me I’d push for a Ford ranger, I’ve had my 94 4.0 for about 12 years now and have abused, worked, redlined, and raced it almost everyday with little to no repairs beside regular maintenance. Gets 21mpg and is relatively strong and fast.
While we all want him to have a stroke, I was also going to suggest finding a ranger for his first vehicle, and tell him to save up and you'll do the match. Gives him the means to get a job and save, and also allows you to help him get a truck that will last him a while. (teaching responsibility while also appeasing your wishes in the long run)

While I wouldn't have a ranger, (i'm a big guy and don't find them comfortable) they are good little trucks that take a heck of a beating. I've known a few people with them, and they have no regrets about owning them. My buddy has a sleeper edition Dakota, and his fav truck was still his 86 danger ranger that he bought off another of my friends. That was 8 years ago, and that ranger is still on the road.
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