My 97 has a 4" exhaust with no catalytic converter, a TW 6 position chip, an ATS intercooler, IDM mod and a few other cats and dogs for mods.
I was going to go with full force stage 1 injectors until I realized I could get my injectors made into stage ones for half the cost at Rosewood Diesel. That was my plan as soon as I can find a week that I can do without my truck.
I was reading the new Diesel Power magazine last night about the upgrades to their 97 Powerstroke. They made 353 hp and 747 ft/lbs with the 170cc stage one injectors in their truck.
They put in 238/80 hybrid injectors in the same truck and made 420 hp and 788 ft/lbs of torque.
Pretty impressive and it all depends on what your plans are for your truck. If your truck is an ongoing mod then yes these injectors sound great because they can be turned up with your other mods and you only have to buy one set of injectors.
In my case, my truck is my tow rig and I was just planning on maximizing the potential of the stock components. Here are some of my concerns with the hybrid injectors.
1. Forget trying this with the stock transmission. Mine at this point is still stock. They use a NADP heavy Hauler E4OD transmission.
2. Will the stock fuel system support this kind of power? They use a Dieselsite CPR electric fuel system in their testing. My fuel system is stock.
3. I'm quite certain adding these injectors would also require a larger turbo? They use a Comp Turbo TP38. I would maybe look for a Bean Diesel D-66 if were to buy these injectors. They have already maxed out the capability of the TP38 turbo and are now looking for a GT42 or a GTP38R to turn the power up even more.
4. The cost difference of the injectors. They bought theirs from Unlimited Diesel Performance for $1,850. Rebuilt stage ones are under $600.
5. Does Tony Wildman have the tuning to support dialing back the fuel on these hybrids until the other supporting mods can be purchased that will be capable of surviving the 500 RWH potential of these hybrid injectors? The fuel would have to be gradually turned up as the mods increased.
What do you guys think about this?
I was going to go with full force stage 1 injectors until I realized I could get my injectors made into stage ones for half the cost at Rosewood Diesel. That was my plan as soon as I can find a week that I can do without my truck.
I was reading the new Diesel Power magazine last night about the upgrades to their 97 Powerstroke. They made 353 hp and 747 ft/lbs with the 170cc stage one injectors in their truck.
They put in 238/80 hybrid injectors in the same truck and made 420 hp and 788 ft/lbs of torque.
Pretty impressive and it all depends on what your plans are for your truck. If your truck is an ongoing mod then yes these injectors sound great because they can be turned up with your other mods and you only have to buy one set of injectors.
In my case, my truck is my tow rig and I was just planning on maximizing the potential of the stock components. Here are some of my concerns with the hybrid injectors.
1. Forget trying this with the stock transmission. Mine at this point is still stock. They use a NADP heavy Hauler E4OD transmission.
2. Will the stock fuel system support this kind of power? They use a Dieselsite CPR electric fuel system in their testing. My fuel system is stock.
3. I'm quite certain adding these injectors would also require a larger turbo? They use a Comp Turbo TP38. I would maybe look for a Bean Diesel D-66 if were to buy these injectors. They have already maxed out the capability of the TP38 turbo and are now looking for a GT42 or a GTP38R to turn the power up even more.
4. The cost difference of the injectors. They bought theirs from Unlimited Diesel Performance for $1,850. Rebuilt stage ones are under $600.
5. Does Tony Wildman have the tuning to support dialing back the fuel on these hybrids until the other supporting mods can be purchased that will be capable of surviving the 500 RWH potential of these hybrid injectors? The fuel would have to be gradually turned up as the mods increased.
What do you guys think about this?