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#1 ·
Do you have to remove the turbo to install a wicked wheel? Is it worth the install? :dunno:
 
#2 ·
do you have the symptoms of turbo surge then yes and theres a video on here somewhere showing exactly how to install it and no you dont have to remove the turbo.
 
#3 ·
From what I have been told, it is great for getting rid of turbo surge. I have heard that you can put it on without removing the turbo, but if you remove the turbo, then it is easier and you can replace the o-rings / gaskets. Maybe someone else with post up with firsthand info. Good luck.
 
#4 ·
Check out powerstrokehelp.com this guys a genius in my eyes. he has a free video of how to do a turbo impeller upgrade looks pretty easy. (banks, wicked wheel, etc). plus a bunch of other upgrades and things to know.
 
#9 ·
That guy is about as smart as a box of rocks... Same guy that thinks he has 600hp because he added what the box said on a superchips, plus propane, plus nitrous...

Real smart guy there...:doh:
 
#5 ·
My bother (southern 7.3) installed one and did not have to remove the turbo you may want to sent him a pm to get more info.
 
#6 ·
You dont have to remove the turbo, i believe in the 7.3l tech forum there is a video showing how. i know for a fact there is some where on this site, but i think its in the 7.3l tech file section.
 
#7 ·
Thanks for all the info guys. I found the install info.
 
#8 ·
pull off the fresh side housing and leave the wastegate attached. Then take a impact wrench and gently burst it a time or two in reverse. it will pop the stock wheel loose. spin the new one on and crack it one time with the impact. button it back up and your golden.
 
#10 ·
yah, I seem to agree CSIPSD. But if it is up to me, i pull the turbo. I have done 4-5 of these, and I prefer to pull it out, its not that much harder and you do not risk damaging the shaft, plus you can check and replace all of your o-rings and donut gaskets if necessary
 
#11 ·
Agreed, it takes less then an hour to remove the turbo, you can check everything good, clean everything and put it back together properly.
 
#12 ·
yeah were gonna take out my turbo when we do mine in a week or so here. it'll be a learning experience for me so im ready for it.
 
#13 ·
BP blaster... get a can or two and hose everything down now, and again the morning before, and again a few minutes before you start... Everything will fall right off.:thumb:
 
#14 ·
Yea watching that WW install video just made me angry. It's pretty stupid IMO. Spining the wheels with an impact multiple times. Keep in mind there is no oil flowing to the turbo at this time..... The best part of that video is where he Is asked what to tighten the wheel to? And he says the wheel tightens itself. LOL.
 
#24 · (Edited)
Yea watching that WW install video just made me angry. It's pretty stupid IMO. Spining the wheels with an impact multiple times. Keep in mind there is no oil flowing to the turbo at this time..... The best part of that video is where he Is asked what to tighten the wheel to? And he says the wheel tightens itself. LOL.
Well, I'd tend to beleive that Scott has alot of knowledge about something like this, he's a damn good mechanic...talk to anybody who has had any work done by him or gotten his help here on the Org.......so LOL all you want, I'll take his advice over anybody's here. :thumb:
 
#15 ·
Bumping the wheel with an impact won't take it off. Just take the turbo off and replace your pedestal O rings while you're in there. And delete your EBPV while the turbo is out. :nod:
 
#22 ·
Just look at how much air that valve blocks and you'll understand why I removed mine. :) And no, doesn't affect warm-up time at all. :thumb:


We "bumped" mine twice with an impact and it was still on their tight. I used a 1/2" drive impact with a 150 gallon air compressor, so no "weakness" there.
 
#18 · (Edited)
"Yea watching that WW install video just made me angry. It's pretty stupid IMO. Spining the wheels with an impact multiple times. Keep in mind there is no oil flowing to the turbo at this time" Also keep in mind that if your running a good quality oil it will leave a film of oil on the jurnal bearings and no harm will come from doing it this way. The way the turbo is built it will inherintly tighten the intake impeller during operation. "Bumping the wheel with an impact won't take it off" Eather you have a weak impact or I have a majic one because I've changed two of them this way. To the OP my experiance with the two WW's that I have installed seemd to gain boost about 200rpm sooner but also created a little higher EGT's in the higher rpm's. If you have an automatic tranny and no surg issue I wouldent recomend the WW. It is more benificial if you have a manual tranny because of the quicker boost.
 
#19 ·
First, here's the video -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZAAjrHnHN0

Second, IMHO, there's nothing wrong with doing it this way. There's Plenty of oil on the bushings for the Very Low RPM the air wrench spins it. It will come right off with the air tool if you've got a fast, "snotty", one pretty quickly. Just "blip it" a few times and you'll see a space open-up between the back of the wheel and the turbo.

I wouldn't get too worked-up about torque specs on it either.... All your doing working the difference in inertia between the turbine and compressor when you accelerate/decelerate the mass of the stationary component. You're not going to overtighten it that way and if there's enough force to loosen it then you'll apply enough to retighten.

Also, we all say we did it for the surging, but in reality, it's all about hearing your engine "Sing" ;) (don't forget the "Foil Delete" while you're at it!)
 
#20 ·
Please dont use an impact and screw up the shaft on the turbo!
 
#25 ·
Its not going to hurt the turbo at all. there isnt enough mass to cause damage to the balance of the wheel due to stress from the impact. it doesnt need oil because its not rotating that much, it rotates for over a minute after the engine shuts off without oil being pumped to it... plus its way easier this way. I watched maintains video on here and followed his directions. Ive got several thousand miles on my wicked wheel and no problems 30psi plus.
if you wanna spend all day doing this job and have nothing better to do take the turbo off. If you wanna spend about an hour or less putting it on and accomplishing the same thing the follow maintains video directions. The only time you would hurt the turbo is if your wheel for some reason doesnt pop off real easy and you keep knocking on it hard with the impact. just dont be a dummy. oh and the wheel does tighten it self, think about the way the turbo rotates...
 
#32 ·
just weld the port shut eh? simple

thanks alot
 
#33 ·
You'll have two holes... one from the rod actuator. We tapped that and put a 1/4" NPT pipe plug in there. The other holes are from the rod which holds the valve in there. We cut a bolt to fit to act as a plug, then welded that in there.
 
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