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post #1 of 82 Old 06-12-2010, 04:56 PM Thread Starter
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Out pulled a Cummins Bad!!!!

This is not a race kill, but an "out-pulling" kill. So we were hauling cattle from a feed lot out to a ranch Thursday and I am driving my '08 6.4 with a 32' triple axle stock trailer and my buddy was in an '02 Cummins with a 20' stock trailer. My 6.4 does have a DPF delete and as far as I know the Cummins is stock. I loaded 17 cows on my trailer (about 18,700 lbs. of cows) and he had 29 little calves (about 7500lbs of calves). I was in front, pulled onto the freeway together, within a couple of miles I had pulled so far ahead I could not see him. Came to the next town where we changed highways and stared a 25 mile climb gaining over 2,000 feet in elevation. By that time he caught up to me in town, we pulled out and I left him again. There is one hill that is about 2 miles long over 6% grade I topped it at 40mph at a little over half throttle, I have to back out of it to keep my EGT's around 1200 degrees. I know his was stock but I was hauling more than 11,000lbs more than he was and you would think he would have been able to keep up with that much of a difference. I just never have been very impressed with Cummins, I know there are good ones and really souped up ones that can probably out pull me, but I never see it! All I do is pull big loads, I don't care how fast my truck is I just want it to bear down and pull it's guts out and all my Powerstrokes have pulled good for me!

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You have half again the hp and tq he does plus a 5speed tranny and gearing advantage. Not much to say about it other than that.

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I say good pull that's alit of extra weight what tune were you pulling in.?

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Just out of curiosity, how much do the trailers weigh?

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I say good pull that's alit of extra weight what tune were you pulling in.?
I went the cheapest route I could on my dpf delete, I am running an Edge, I run it on level 2, I have decent power and I get the best milage on that setting. I know it is probably not the best programmer compared to a Spartan or H&S, but I have had zero problems in the 40,000plus miles I have used it. I know the old Cummins was stock, but I had a trailer 12' longer and over 11,000lbs more cargo weight, I still think it could have at least kept up with me.

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Just out of curiosity, how much do the trailers weigh?
I really could not tell you what these trailers wiegh, mine was a 32' triple axle with a full metal top, his was a 20' with a tarp top, same basic design of trailer though. My 32' tandem dual flatbed and my truck wiegh right at 15,000lbs empty, I dont think this stock trailer wieghs quite as much, but I could be wrong.

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I have had the same experience with the dodges my truck seems to pull better than what the dodges that I have drove. along with better handing ect.ect . I want one of those 6.4s they are bad *** want to trade ?

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id say thats hardly a comparison. it was def a kill, but u hav to look at the technology differences of the 2 trucks. ur 08 is pushing everybit of double the power to the tires as he is.

id like to see wat the 6.4 powerstroke with all the deletes/programmer and the 6.7 cummins with all the deletes/programmer do head to head. IMO

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are you sure the cummins knew you were racing? just sounds to me like he wasnt trying and you were... maybe he just didnt want to run 100 through town..
o yea hes stock.... your tuned and have more than 100hp than he did from the factory congrats lol thats like saying your truck out pulled my 4wheeler....

i towed up a 8% grade grossing 25Klbs grade was 4 miles i towed it at 55mph the whole way up and that was on my 30hp setting i think we would be a closer comparison
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are you sure the cummins knew you were racing? just sounds to me like he wasnt trying and you were... maybe he just didnt want to run 100 through town..
o yea hes stock.... your tuned and have more than 100hp than he did from the factory congrats lol thats like saying your truck out pulled my 4wheeler....

i towed up a 8% grade grossing 25Klbs grade was 4 miles i towed it at 55mph the whole way up and that was on my 30hp setting i think we would be a closer comparison
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