I got killed...by a cop.... - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
Kill Stories A place to share Hot Rodding lies...er we mean stories.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 23 Old 04-12-2007, 05:34 AM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
mountainlander's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 798
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I got killed...by a cop....

I had a very strange, and a tad frightening experience yesterday. I was headed back from lunch on Walnut Hill in Dallas, it's a 3 lane road, and I was in the center lane. As I approach a long straight away, a Lexus SUV comes roaring up behind me, and then jumps to the left lane to go around me. The speed limit was 35, and I was speeding, probably going about 43-45. This Lexus was going WAAAY faster than me.

Suddenly a cop steps out into the road from a side street, waving us down. I hit the brakes thinking, "good, that Lexus is driving like an idiot anyway." Except the officer waves ME over to the side.

He comes to the window and asks me, "Where's the fire?" I told him that I knew I was probably speeding, but that the Lexus behind me was driving like a bat out of hell. He ignores me, asks for my license and insurance. Then he proceeds to tell me he clocked me at 71 in a 35.:blink: I told him there was simply NO WAY I was travelling that fast, that he must have clocked the Lexus rather than me.

"Step out of the truck sir."

He pulls me back to the back of the truck and then starts peering through all the windows in the truck and walking around the truck. He comes back and tells me that he would be citing me for speeding, no registration or inspection (just had a new windshield put in and the stickers were in an envelope in my console), and no front license plate.

At that point I said, "Wait a minute." I showed him the stickers. Then I told him I had a good friend on the force, and that the only time an officer was going to write a front license plate ticket was when he felt like somebody was giving him the run around. I told him I sincerely thought he clocked the wrong vehicle, and that I wasn't trying to be a jerk about it. Then I explained to him what had happened that made me think he got the wrong guy.

He went and sat in his patrol car, ran my info. Then he comes back and tells me he's writing the ticket for 59 in 35 so I'll be able to take defensive driving!!!

So, in short, I was speeding, but not 59 in a 35, and DEFINITELY not 71 in a 35. I don't know what to do here. Don't know whether to go to court and hope he doesn't show, or just suck it up and take the ticket.

Sucks.

He got me on radar rather than laser, and I KNOW those things auto acquire the fastest moving object out there. So he could have aimed to clock me, and then as the Lexus pulled around me the radar jumped to him. Problem is it's my word against the officer's, and everyone knows how that ends up. It's not like Mr. Lexus is going to come testify on my behalf. Somebody in a light blue metallic Lexus SUV got a free ride yesterday.
mountainlander is offline  
post #2 of 23 Old 04-12-2007, 05:43 AM
Gun Nut




 
Rodslinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 14,315
Thanks: 15
Thanked 74 Times in 59 Posts
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Quoted: 120 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Rodslinger
Sorry to hear that man but I'd probably take the defensive driving - ONLINE.

'05 F250, CC, FX4, 6.0 PSD
sct x4
MTW Stage 1 Turbo
DJ's FUEL+ - Fuel Pressure Intensifier
Nitrous Express NXd Stacker
Snow Performance Stage III Water/Meth Kit
ARP Studs
MBRP 4" Turbo Back w/ no Muffler & no Cat
DashBoss on my iPad
ISSPRO Gauges in Triple A-Pillar
High Idle Mod
Iron Horse Front Bumper Replacement
12,000LB MileMarker Winch
2000Watt Power Inverter
Viper 5901 Remote Start/Alarm
Pioneer Avic-D3 Stereo/Nav
Train Horns!
Valentine 1
Velvet ride shackles
RockStars on 33's
Big azz dent from a blown tire.


"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived."
- General George S. Patton, Jr

Please support our troops!

Rodslinger is offline  
post #3 of 23 Old 04-12-2007, 05:45 AM
im fat and ugly


 
stump0331's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Shreveport, LA
Posts: 15,689
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
ew man that stinks i hate to hear it,

yur probably gonna have to eat this one, its gonna be hard to prove otherwise

2004 Excursion
stump0331 is offline  
post #4 of 23 Old 04-12-2007, 06:20 AM
Is it even worth it???



 
ABOBB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lex KY
Posts: 9,098
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via AIM to ABOBB Send a message via Yahoo to ABOBB
I'd say you'll have to eat the speeding ticket... don't really see any way around it. It's probably a lucky thing that he let you show him the stickers, and that he wasn't a jerk about the front plate. Some cops seem to get an attitude.

ABOBB
Aaron A. Bobb
abobb@powerstroke.org

2002 F-250 SD ExCab, Short Bed, PSD, Auto trans, 4X4
Custom tuned 6 position Chip
Whelen CSP690 Strobe Kit (Installed @ Feb Indy Strokers Rally... Thanks Adam), ZooDad Mod
COMING ATTRACTIONS:

Heated Side Mirrors, Owner Built Rear Airbag System
Owner Built Front Bumper, Owner Built Tymar Intake
Owner Built Custom Exhaust, Rear Roll Pan?


]
ABOBB is offline  
post #5 of 23 Old 04-12-2007, 06:29 AM
Strokin' In Dixie-Land
 
Big AL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Troy, Alabama
Posts: 2,393
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
That's a bad deal! I've been the innocent party twice. One of the times was outside a small Mississippi town - I was at the tail end of fast moving traffic - about 6 or 7 vehicles. I didn't even try to argue about the other cars (this looked like the wrong place to get in trouble). The other time was in Louisiana on I-10. I was only keeping up with the traffic. However, I was able to get that citation discarded. I guess that if you travel fast with other vehicles - DON'T BE THE SLOWER ONE!!! LOL

:burnout :burnout :burnout



2005 XLT 4x4 Crew Cab 6.0. Torqshift Auto. Arizona Beige.
Mods - 4" FBD Turbo-Back Exhaust with Free-flow Muffler. Power Intake Elbow from Dfuser. Bug Shield. Vent Shades. Aries Step Bars. Custom heavy-duty floor mats. High Idle Mod (great!).
Big AL is offline  
post #6 of 23 Old 04-12-2007, 07:05 AM
Conservative and Proud


 
Banshee34's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Oregon
Posts: 14,492
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
That sucks!!!!

But I'm with everyone else, opt for the defensive driving....

Do you have the option of going to court and pleading guilty, not guilty or no contest though?

2001 F350, Lariat SC LB 4X4 PSD
Quadzilla Commander
Zoodad with Stealth Screen


National Hot Rod Diesel Association

The Org. Staff reserves the right to move, modify, delete or merge posts at our discretion and without explanation.



Banshee34 is offline  
post #7 of 23 Old 04-12-2007, 07:18 AM
duct tape & zip ties

 
bigcountrysg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Willis, MI
Posts: 10,761
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via Yahoo to bigcountrysg
I would be going to court over that ticket. I would be getting a lawyer to go with me too. Even if you pay 1,000 dollars for the lawyer. Think about the points on your license. Then your insurance rates going up for at least the next 2 years if not longer. In the long run paying a lawyer 1,000 if that is worth it. Especially if the cop car has a video camera in it. It is possible that the lexus flying by you is on that tape. The speed recording is on that tape too. So if that lexus did fly by you and got clocked doing an outrageous speed on film. The judge will have to put the judgement in favor for you. I never bow down to a speeding ticket especially when I know I was in the right.


Your Actions Today, Decide Your Future Tomorrow

2005 6.0 Crew Cab Long Box Lariat, current truck

2004 6.0 destroyed by contaminated fuel

2002 7.3L burnt
bigcountrysg is offline  
post #8 of 23 Old 04-12-2007, 07:22 AM
Powerstroke.org Fanatic
 
Tx_Atty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lubbock, TX
Posts: 90
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
From my experience prosecuting these things in the past, you can only hope to beat it in court if there was an in-car camera rolling at the time. If he was a motorcycle cop then obviously that option is out. If you contest and lose, you can no longer take DD. Stinks but that is the system we have.

'97 F-350 CC 4x4, 91K, 4" turbo back, Tymar intake, rhino liner, formerly running B-100 now around B20, AM Phantom gauges (hate them), electrified AC mod, 203* thermo, Edge Evolution, HPX. Fumoto valve waiting to go on...

Pictures
Tx_Atty is offline  
post #9 of 23 Old 04-12-2007, 08:42 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Fat Tony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 190
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
There are a few ways out of this.

A: Call his department, ask when is HIS vacation time. Nine times out of ten, they'll tell you without any questions. Why? because you make a court date DURING HIS VACATION. He doesn't show, you win.

B: Can't get his vacation scheduele? Go to court, do a written declairation rather then a personal appearance. Why? When you physically go to court, if the officer does not show up to court he is docked a days pay, so he is going to show up. When it's a written declairation, the officer is NOT required to write to the judge. Cops hate paperwork. In your written statement, describe what happened. Pull a DMV report on your licence if it's clean use that as your defence. Take a few photos from your truck of where you were, where the cop was (when you take extra effort, time and money to prove something to a judge, he will give you more points for it).

I haven't had to pay a speeding / moving violation ticket in 8 years.

Proverbs 21:9 It is better to live alone in the corner of an attic than with a nagging wife in a lovely home. Now you might not believe in God, Jesus or the Bible, but I'm sure you can appreciate the wisdom of that verse. Amen?

2006 PSD Dark gray.
SCT Tuner
4" turbo back exhaust (sounds amazing)
Blessed by Jesus Christ
Houston TX
Fat Tony is offline  
post #10 of 23 Old 04-12-2007, 08:55 AM
Powerstroke.org Fanatic
 
Tx_Atty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lubbock, TX
Posts: 90
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
It doesnt work that way in Texas. We can convict on a ticket with or without the officer present. Judges tend to give the officer's version a LOT of deference. The worst part is that these tickets are usually heard before a Justice of the Peace; the only judge in Texas not required to be a lawyer (and therefore probably knows nothing about rules of evidence or procedure). I spent 2 years working these things and the one virtually uniform guarantee I can tell you, that I saw, is that a pro se defendant contesting a ticket was a guaranteed loser. The JPs are typically retired officers from one area or another.

Defensive driving is faster, easier, and cheaper than contesting it.
Tx_Atty is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome