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SCTX3 without Studs?

I have an '04 that I bought brand new in May 04 and it only has about 35K on the odometer now because of my multiple deployments to Iraq. I have a 4.5" lift and 35" tires with the stock 373 gears. I'm looking to get some of the power back that I've lost because of the larger tires. Right now, I only tow my '46 Willys CJ2A (heavier because of mods) total weight trailer and jeep between 5-6K LBS. The truck can be a bit sluggish towing long grades and up and over the mountains to the trails that I offroad the jeep.

My question is this. If I got the SCT x3 with Innovative tunes with the Edge Insight for gauges, would I be alright without studs? I don't plan on hot rodding the truck. Just trying to get some more power for pulling my trailer and jeep and getting better fuel mileage for daily driving.

I've heard that Eric's tunes from Innovate is safe for non-studded trucks. Any insight would be much appreciated.

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I have a 2004 F-350, SCT xCal2, with innovative tuning.. no issues at all. just make sure you have something to monitor the temps, and boost with.


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i run erics xtreme tunes on stock head bolts, not a problem

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Thanks RWalker. I noticed that you're a military man. I've been in the Marine Corps since 1995. I'm currently stationed at Camp Pendleton. That's what I was hoping to hear. Anyone else?
Anyone had any experience with the Edge Insight? I know that you have to get the pyro for the EGT but all other gauge info comes from the OBD port (boost, ect.) Is this thing accurate?

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without all the sensors, if it's just in the obd2 it wont be as accurate, you want the sensors to get accurate readings.

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I've got the same setup your questioning. So far I love the Edge Insight with the SCTx3 with Eric's tunes. I just watch my temps and so far I've been ok. I do have my truck at the dealer right now though because I have a serious oil leak somewhere.

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some people have issues and some dont... i say most people run them without studs...

let me know if you have any questions

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Just be aware that a stock truck runs a small risk of blowin head gaskets or having an EGR crap out. So with the SCT (w/ custom tunes) you ARE at risk, just not as much as some of (all) the other tuners.


That being said,..............Get some sort of gauges and a custom tuned SCT

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Well, it seems like it's not such a bad idea. I don't plan on dogging it so I think I'll be alright. I know that Innovative says that their tunes are safe for non-studded trucks so I think I'll get the set up when I get the funds.

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Well, it seems like it's not such a bad idea. I don't plan on dogging it so I think I'll be alright. I know that Innovative says that their tunes are safe for non-studded trucks so I think I'll get the set up when I get the funds.
sounds good... dont forget to get gauges first or at least at the same time when you get the tuner.... if your interested we off discounts for the X3/gauge combos

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