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post #1 of 22 Old 06-15-2014, 12:43 PM Thread Starter
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Why have the USA no diesel cars?

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I was just wondering why the US market has no passenger cars or vans with diesel engine.
The first diesel i found is in the actual Ram 1500. And of course the big diesels in the 2500er and 3500er.
In the EU 62% of all new cars has a diesel engine.
I mean Ford has the Duratorq Diesels in the EU. One of the best Diesels in the EU. The 2.0l with 163HP and the 2.2l with 200HP and 310lbs ft are real Powerengines. The Fusion Titanium 2.2l TDCI is pretty fast. 142mph topspeed and 0 to 60mph in 7.9sec. And 42mpg fuel consumption.
GM has the Opel Diesels in the company which are not best in class but not so bad.

Can someone explain me, why the USA don't like diesels.

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Hi TAC welcome to the ORG
where exactly do you live ?

I would venture to guess the $ is why the US has not perused the Diesel car market
that and the Emission regulations

but others will chime in on this

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I can tell you in three words why.
Tree hugging fascists
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chevy cruz has a diesel. and vw has a couple. its coming in the next few years you will see a lot more. but tree huggin fascist dont help.

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if Diesel wasn't stupid money at the pumps
I imagine We might have seen a bigger push from the Auto Mfg's ??

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if Diesel wasn't stupid money at the pumps
I imagine We might have seen a bigger push from the Auto Mfg's ??
Diesel is more expensive at the pump because of the image the tree hugging fascists have implanted in everyones brain that any/every diesel out there is the same as a 1950's era truck pulling 100,000 pound up an 8% grade spewing black soot that could be seen for miles and the fed throwing on 2.5 times the taxes on diesel than for gasoline to make the tree huggers feel as though the feds are "punishing those evil people"
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I live in germany.
And before you ask. The fastest i have ever drove was 170mph in a biturbo tuned BMW 525 E34.
Diesel is around 0,7-1$ cheaper per gallon here. Don't know what the price difference is in the USA, but in Germany we always try to get the best mpg. 6-6.5$ per gallon diesel and 7-7.5$ per gallon gas.
MB has the clean E300CDI and so.
Here we have the E200CDI 136HP, E220CDI 170 HP, E250CDI 204HP, E300CDI 224HP and the E320CDI 258HP.
Audi has diesels between 140HP and 375HP. BMW 116HP and 313HP.
Even the VW Golf has 3 different diesel engines. 105HP to 184HP.
Many modells have more diesel engine options than gas engine options here. And in some cases the diesel is the strongest available engine.
And we all love the torque of the diesels.
The last 5 years we have the downsizing dogma here. Not good. Really not good. Only small 3 and 4 cylinder engines with turbos are invented.
Ford has a new engineline here. 1l 3cylinder with turbo and up to 160HP.
Or VAG 2l 4cyl with up to 350HP. All gas.
Diesels are better. Not so many HP but much more torque.
Okay. The next VW Passat will get a 2l TDI with biturbo and 234HP. Much HP per litre for a diesel.

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Diesel here is more than regular gasoline
so you can see a problem then the fact that people think Diesel is dirty

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I believe diesel is more than regular gasoline, due simply to the simple economics of supply and demand.

I think all the def/dpf/new emissions control is due in part to tree hugging hippies, but mostly to the Feds in a new round about way to gain more revenue.


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It's a typical situation of people regulating things they know nothing about.
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