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Old 04-10-2014, 09:52 AM
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super duty F-450 vs single axle truck,

Hi, is this the right place to post this?
planning on either buying a new Kenworth 370 with 30ft box or a 2015 super duty F-450 with a dock loading height trailer, the trailer would be close to 12ft high since i need at least 8ft to drive in with a forklift.
what are the pros and cons of going either way, will F-450 pull better? what about fuel mileage? also wondering how would both stand up for a strong side wind?what are you thoughts? anything else, here is a picture of the trailer, equipped with air ride and the works,
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Old 04-10-2014, 03:59 PM
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Kenworth all the way with what you want to do.
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Agreed!!!

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But for what reason? Think the F-450 wouldn't pull the trailer better then the single axle truck?
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The tractor is built for it for day in day use out the 450 is not. Just look at how many class 7 truck are used hauling fright around. The 450 is a class 4 truck at best. Spec out the tractor with the Paccar PX9 at 350hp with ether a 10 speed eaton fuller or a 6 speed allison auto, 12,000 front axle and a 21,000 rear axle on air ride and you now have a tractor that will go a million miles with out a problem. The 450 will maybe make 1/4 of that and thats only if its not really working everyday. My previous employer had a fleet of several T300's and T370 both single and tandom rear axles running GVW's up to 50,000 pounds hauling fuel to construction sites and we where not all that easy on the trucks and we had very little problems with them. You can drop to a T270 (class 6) and still have a very capable truck. Also you will most likely have to have a CDL and DOT numbers with which ever truck you go with. You might spend a bit more getting the KW or Pete but it will be worth it in the long run. A truck that is built to work its azz of 24/7/365 in the worst of conditions will live a long happy life pulling that trailer around. You might also look at a tractor that is very close to what you need but a few years old and it will still have plenty of life left in it.
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Old 04-10-2014, 08:47 PM
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ok thanks for explaining,
really would like to have the luxury of a F450 King Ranch, Kenworth T370 cab doesn't come close, round trips are approx 200 miles and it would be nice to have a bigger cab, what about the ride? you think the kenworth has a better ride then the F450 with air ride trailer?
PS: can't help but notice you have a 2010 F450, hows it holding up? or is that for light pulling only?
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Yep I have a '10 450 because when I do tow its fairly heavy. I could have gotten away with a 350 but the 450 had bigger breaks and axles and I wanted the saftey factor those provide. The '15 450's are going back to what mine is like unlike the '11-'14 450's. If the trips you are doing are that short the KW cab will be fine, it will have an air ride seat and passibly an air ride cab as well, but you have to remember your driving a truck, even with the 450, and its not going to ride like no chevy pickup.

I put in some time 600 miles a day in a Pete 385 (grossing 100k), and with an air ride trailer its not to shabby of a ride, but put an older spring ride trailer behind me and you know its there. LOL
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Guess the big key is how heavy is the trailer and how oftin is it going to be that heavy.
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I would say it would be hauling 10,000 pounds one way, way back it's just empty skids.
Makes 2 to 3 deliveries a week.
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The '15 450's are going back to what mine is like unlike the '11-'14 450's.


What do you mean with this?
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