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Natural gas and diesel

Okay so this might be kind of a newb question but I'm just curious as to the effective a of natural gas system on are trucks because there's a guy here in Utah that has kits available for them I myself don't want one just curious if there is a benefit and does it hurt the motor since it's not a oil based fuel like diesel

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A conversion kit or supplemental (in addition to diesel)? There are a lot of commercial vehicles (trucks & buses) running compressed natural gas. The advantages are cleaner burning and supposedly less noise. Some use propane to supplement diesel for increasing fuel mileage but you need to factor in the price of kit and refills.

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Yep. Pretty much what he said. ^^^^^^

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Well I understand all that I just wanted to know if it had a negative effect since they both burn hot and dry where diesel is a oil based and lubricates

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Well I understand all that I just wanted to know if it had a negative effect since they both burn hot and dry where diesel is a oil based and lubricates

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If its done right then no. A lot of people will bash propane on all the diesel sites like this one, but there are large fleet companies that use propane on their fleets with millions of miles on their trucks.

The kit that I would trust the most is one on ebay.

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Have been talking quite a bit to the owner lately. He drives a 6.0l and says for the most part powerstrokes will see anywhere between a 3-7 mpg increase. Just depends on the truck and driver. Typically Cummins see's the best results. Plus he's sold well over 1000 kits and not one person has blown an engine up that he's aware of. 100% feedback since 2004 I'd say is pretty reputable.

Only thing that would make it worthwhile is if propane was fairly cheap in your area. Which for me is only $1.45/gal.

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If LNG or LP was used in the same system that diesel is meant to be used in, then there could be issues with lack of lubrication.
But since it's used in it's own supply system, then it's fine.



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If LNG or LP was used in the same system that diesel is meant to be used in, then there could be issues with lack of lubrication.
But since it's used in it's own supply system, then it's fine.
It is used a lot in medium and heavy duty diesel trucks. In fact MB is coming out next year on a full size big rig on propane with a modified head to run spark plugs. But its a completely diesel engine. Cummins isx engines run propane add-on as an option for gensets and other equipment. Also my local garbage pickup company is running 2 full size rigs with straight CNG. Not sure if its the isx engine or if they are running the series 60 Detroit's.

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