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Anyone remember when...

Anyone remember when..

diesels did not have two fuel pumps...
Did not have computer controlled anything...
Did not have HPOP fed by a LPOP...
FICM, PCM, ETC ETC ETC...
Electric fuel injectors...
Fuel injectors...
Heavy duty and multiple alternators...
Needed two batteries just to turn it over...
Drive by wire..
Egr valves....
Oil coolers...
DPF...
Catalytic converters...
Turbo chargers....
IPR, ICP, etc etc....
A particular color oil or coolant you had to run or the engine melts down..
Programmers, scanners, chips...
A computer to tell you what little micro chip board has melted...


Anyone remember when your diesel had 4 cylinders, with forged pistons that didn't break, rings harder than diamonds, ONE fuel pump, that was also the distributor and injectors all in one, 4 simple glow plugs (if you were lucky!) that heated up as long as you wanted, ran in what ever was in the fuel tank, ran with the heavy weight oil from a 45 gallon drum. coolant? Sure, what ever color it is, as long as it wont freeze.



I can just imagine at the "Big Motor" company...

"We'll Fred, they tell me we need a better, cleaner, more reliable Diesel engine"
"Really, well lets build one...

"First, we one only have one oil pump on this thing. We should add another one on here! That will make it more reliable!... Yes, great idea, and we will run one at low pressure just to feed the other one that will be at high pressure! It'll solve all the oil pressure problems!.. "

"OK, now what... lets replace the old mechanical fuel pump and distributer with an electronic pump... No No, we need two fuel pump systems! One engine driven fed by a low pressure electric pump! No no, let's run the high pressure one, not mechanically driven, but lets utilize that new oil system, and drive the pump and fuels system off the the high oil pressure side" " Oh that's a great idea Fred!"

"Ok now what.. Lets add electric injectors!! Yes yes, but no cam shaft driven anything, they wear out after 1 million miles... Lets make them completely computer controlled!... Yes that's it! And that way if you have a bad battery or alternator, it will kill the engine! That way you know that the alternator is bad! Two systems in one! We can eliminate that old amp gauge!"

"Now these oils and fluids these guys are running, I don't know about them anymore... They only hold out for years...and we'll have to cool the oil now too, lets add an oil cooler to the system.. Yes, and, And, run coolant through it at the same time!! Oh yes, great idea! Not sure where to put it though.. Maybe right on top of the block.. Yes of course, where all the heat is! We'll call it.. "Inductive Cooling Technology"

Yes, and the rings that they use... Too hard, lets use a milder carbon in these ones.. Won't score up the cylinders walls as much with the light weight oils!"

"Fred, were really onto something here with this one!"

" OK Ok, now the muffler... Lets get rid of these big pipes, and put in a converter that gov't guy keeps telling us we need. You know what else we need? We need a complete different system that injects fuel into the converter to clean it.. No No, we need a whole other system Fred... It will burn a cleaning fluid! Yes that's it, an other tank with more fluids! Yes and when it runs out, well program it to shut down to 500 Rpm, that way he knows he's out! He can walk out of the bush and go get some more, hate to think he would be out and not even know it!"

"Ok, now, just to mess with him (lots of snickering in the back ground now) lets build this all around a completely new commuter system, not just one, but multiple computers and sensors... And when one goes bad, you plug it in to another computer that will give you numbers! The numbers can be cross referenced in a code book that we can sell! Yes, and them every couple of years, we Weill reprogram that computer, and change the codes!"

Anyone remember? Diesels used to be so simple and run forever...
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ya i remember the 7.3
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Lmmfaorofl!!!!!!
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It's sad to say but those days are long gone! Which reminds me . . . I just poured some outboard oil in my gas tank the other night . . . and the truck actually still ran!? lol . . . that's what happens when you let the government put their hands on anything! It ends up more complicated and more restricted.
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Lmmfaorofl!!!!!!
Thanks. That's a nice looking rig. What are the lovers on the front of the hood for? Are they connected to the turbo charger?
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anyone remember when diesels were HEAVY GUTLESS SMOKING SLOW piles of crap That turned off at least 3/4 of the USA from ever owning a diesel
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anyone remember when diesels were HEAVY GUTLESS SMOKING SLOW piles of crap That turned off at least 3/4 of the USA from ever owning a diesel
I remember when diesels were reliable workhorses, used by working men who got **** done. Now they're insanely overprised, unreliable hunks of **** marketed towards working class posers who think they're keeping up with the Joneses by doing burnouts in the supermarket parking lot.
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anyone remember when diesels were HEAVY GUTLESS SMOKING SLOW piles of crap That turned off at least 3/4 of the USA from ever owning a diesel
Gutless? have you ever fired up even a little D671 wide open?
Or in your modern day terms, WOT?

Do that and you know you have something. Better yet, run it all day wide open and work the SOB. Try that with a modern day diesel and let me know what part numbers you find behind you....
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Lol. It's a ram air induction hood. Feeds the air straight to the cai.
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anyone remember when diesels were HEAVY GUTLESS SMOKING SLOW piles of crap That turned off at least 3/4 of the USA from ever owning a diesel
I remember the 6.9!

Or worse than that, the GM 6.2/6.5

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