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post #1 of 11 Old 07-21-2008, 03:40 PM Thread Starter
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Can a Powerstroke equal a Cummins

I took a short ride in a co-worker's 2002 Dodge Cummins 2500 today. He's encouraged me to do the mods that I've performed on my truck.

His 2500 has dual turbos, Banks intake and exhaust, Smarty programmer and big injectors (along with many other mods).

The acceleration absolutely pinned me in the seat. His turbos scream and there's only a little smoke on takeoff and during the shifts. The turbo gauge reads a little over 40 at wot. He said if he goes to the top level of his programmer it boosts over 50.

It's his daily driver and if he keeps his foot out of it he averages 25mpg!

Just amazing. My truck is nowhere near that strong and I don't think it ever could be

The only thing in my truck's favor is that it's a whole lot better looking than a Dodge

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Banks Monster Exhaust, Banks Ram Air Intake, SCT with tunes from Innovative Diesel, Zoodad mod, High Idle Mod, Reverse light floods, ARE Shell, HAM Radio Antennas (80m-10m screwdriver, 2m, 440, 6m whip)

First 25k was run on Biodiesel but it's too much trouble so I'm dino-diesel only now > 50k

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Are you sure its a 92 cuase that would be a mechanical 12 valve and therefore he could not have a smarty cuase those cant use chips or programmers since they are all mechanical

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Also you could get to the power he makes cuase you can get twins, big injectors, etc but its a little more expensive

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Maybe he meant '02?

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Also you could get to the power he makes cuase you can get twins, big injectors, etc but its a little more expensive
That is what I was thinking. Sure you can build the same power. But you need bigger and deeper pockets.


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Are you sure its a 92 cuase that would be a mechanical 12 valve and therefore he could not have a smarty cuase those cant use chips or programmers since they are all mechanical
I meant to say 2002 not 1992. I'll edit my post.

2005 F250 XLT crew cab used for camper towing, kid hauling and commuting:

Banks Monster Exhaust, Banks Ram Air Intake, SCT with tunes from Innovative Diesel, Zoodad mod, High Idle Mod, Reverse light floods, ARE Shell, HAM Radio Antennas (80m-10m screwdriver, 2m, 440, 6m whip)

First 25k was run on Biodiesel but it's too much trouble so I'm dino-diesel only now > 50k
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Oh ok no problem bud just wanted to clarify

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I drove a 2001 Cummins at work a few months back that had me smiling. It had been converted to a P-pump, running larger injectors, and it was running twins on a built forged motor. The guy uses it as a sled puller and daily driver, I look forward to working on that truck again.

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2002 if it still has the VP44 it's considered to have lowest power potential of the Cummins.

98% have not made it past 700 rwhp.

Is his an auto or manual?

Your 6.0 can make 400+ with just an SCT, add some injectors, turbo and spray and you could probably keep up with him. You'll run mid 12's, and even if he is one of the elite Vp44's he'll be less then a second ahead of you.

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2002 if it still has the VP44 it's considered to have lowest power potential of the Cummins.

98% have not made it past 700 rwhp.

Is his an auto or manual?

Your 6.0 can make 400+ with just an SCT, add some injectors, turbo and spray and you could probably keep up with him. You'll run mid 12's, and even if he is one of the elite Vp44's he'll be less then a second ahead of you.
I know his injector pump has been upgraded. And yes it's a manual. I'm not familiar enough with the Cummins engine mods to remember what he referred to it as.

He towed with his new 3500 on a trailer from NC to CO to some well known Cummins mechanic. The guy worked on it for a few weeks and he paid another fella to drive it back to NC.

His 2500 was fast before he sent it out there. It already had the injector mod, the Smarty, and some sort of chip that gave it a really loopy idle. Before Colorado it felt pretty much like my truck on an aggressive ID street tune. But after the guy in CO did the dual turbos and other mods it's unreal.

I'm sure I'd have to do the head studs and full EGR delete to get near the kind of power he's getting.

Next he plans to delete the DPF off his new 3500 and begin it's transformation.

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Banks Monster Exhaust, Banks Ram Air Intake, SCT with tunes from Innovative Diesel, Zoodad mod, High Idle Mod, Reverse light floods, ARE Shell, HAM Radio Antennas (80m-10m screwdriver, 2m, 440, 6m whip)

First 25k was run on Biodiesel but it's too much trouble so I'm dino-diesel only now > 50k

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