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post #1 of 19 Old 07-04-2013, 04:57 PM Thread Starter
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To buy a diesel or to not buy a diesel is the question....

Alright I have seen a similar question on other forums and haven't found the answer I'm looking for. Or maybe I'm just looking for someone to give me some advice.

Maybe not the best place to ask about buying a diesel or not on a diesel forum but oh well.

Here is my info. I have always owned cars. I have driven trucks for work. Small and large. All my friends have trucks. And I have more mechanical knowledge then 90 percent of them. I do all my own mechanic work. I have rebuilt all sorts of motors but I have yet to mess with a diesel. Just haven't had the chance. I have installed exhaust and stuff but never did actual motor work on a diesel. I do understand how diesels work.

I'm moving to a farm this fall. I want to have a truck. My first instinct is to get a powerstroke because at work I used to drive nothing but 7.3's all day long. Love that motor!

Here is what ill be doing, lots of highway miles between madison and minneapolis, probably 2 trips back and forth a month. (500 or so miles roundtrip) Farm work, which includes pulling trailers, hay wagons, etc. Although only in the summer time. And maybe once a week or every other week. Winter I plow with the tractor so no need for that.

To the powerstroke owners out there that have owned a gas truck or still do, does owning a powerstroke cost:
-same
-Less
-Or more
As a gas truck?

And I'm talking, the cost of fuel, maintenance, parts, etc.

Example the 7.5 or the 5.4 vs the 7.3 PSD.

I'm looking at buying a f250 or f350 between 1994-1997 (I like the old body)

I have no interest in dumping a ton of money to get more horsepower. Just need the truck to work and get reasonable fuel economy. As I understand it the 7.3 turbo gets about 20 mpg highway and 15 or so city. Unloaded of course. Those numbers I can live with.

Sorry for the long post but this is a big change for me and I don't want to get stuck with the wrong truck.

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Well a diesel is going to give u alot more torque and a 7.3l in tunes is def not getting 20 mpg I will never go back to a gas engine after owning a diesel

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Fuel will cost more but for what your are talking about doing will be no problem for a diesel truck and the gasser will probably use more fuel anyway. I get 18 mpg with my F-250 empty. As stated above diesel al the way.

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I just bought a F250 with the 7.3. It is a crew cab short bed. My dad has a F150 with the 4.6, it is a super cab. My truck is getting better MPG than his.
The only thing his truck has better is looks (mine is an 02, his is 05) and his is quiet.

Mine has so much more space and will out tow.

So IMO, get a deisel. As far as cost, his truck has almost 250K on it, but it was bought used with a motor that had like 135k on it now. He has no issues with it. Really, they cost about the same for fluids as we change the gas motor more often.
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I also won't go back to a gas rig for my truck. Diesel is so much better. Torque is unreal and better economy than gas trucks.

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Have only owned one gas truck. It was an 08 ranger so im porlly not the best candidate for gas vs. diesel. I only owned it for 3 months until I realized I was way to big for that truck. I'm 6'4" 260 pds so I felt like I was riding in a clown car. And for being a 4 cyl with a manual trans it didnt get as great of gas mileage as i had expected. I purchased it because I was wanting something cheap that got good mpg to drive so I could strip down my 91 coupe mustang that was at the time my DD and to a 414 stroker and stuff I had sitting waiting for it. Needless to say that ranger was a waste of time and I wish I had gotten a diesel then instead.


Now.... I have had many friends with gas trucks as well as my parents. I am now on my 4th diesel. The maintence is a little more expensive with oil changes being 4x more oil, and fuel filters needing done every 10K. But my diesel have consistently gotten as good or better mpg than my parents 02 F150 and always better than my friends lifted titans,tundras, F-150's etc. Its also not in all instances diesel is more expensive either. My gf and I just took a vacation to california. We stayed in santa ana and there was a rebel station where diesel was 3.65 and regular 4.03.

And not to mention resale. I dont have the brightest friends when it comes to buying and selling vehicles but I will say i have honestly never lost money on a diesel even after dropping money on mods etc where they are trading up for newer tundras and just losing thousands.

To this day after either riding in my trucks or just hanging around me i have had 4 friends switch from gas to diesel and all of them say they'll never own gas again.


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My 02 is my second truck and my first was an f150. I could get away with an gas but the diesel was too good of a deal to pass up. We do pull skid steers, hay and old cars from time to time but after having mine for a year and half I can never go back to a gas truck. Its nice knowing that when you need that extra power you have it and don't have to worry about. Plus it could possibly be the last truck you ever have to buy if taken care of
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Diesel all the way , the 7.3 your wanting will be good for whatever you need it for , MPG , Towing , those are the reasons i converted my 89 gasser to a PSD

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Ill bite. If I were buying a 90's f series I'd definitely go with the powerstroke. But if I were buying brand new I'd have a hard time not buying a new 2014 silverado or Sierra 1500, they have a payload of over 2k pounds and a max tow capacity of 12k pounds. The new f-150 and 1500 series trucks are making serious numbers.
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If you're interested in an older 7.3L truck, I strongly advise a standard transmission. The autos have a poor reputation. If you do choose the auto route, there are companies who can build these transmissions strong.

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