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post #1 of 17 Old 09-17-2006, 09:41 AM Thread Starter
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Manual vs. Electronic Gauges

Just an FYI for y'all running the digital gauge readouts like my Bully Dog Outlook Monitor. I was always concerned about my EGT's going up when I switched from my Predator to my Bully Dog Triple Dog. Krista (smokin'stroke) has noticed similar high EGT readings on her Bully Dog Monitor as well. SO she and I were discussing it and I decided to hook my manual gauge back up WITH my Outlook Monitor, to see if the temps were reading right. They're NOT. It's reads fine at low EGT's but if I get about 800 and higher the Outlook Monitor can vary at least 200 degrees!!! When my manual gauge read 900, my Outlook Monitor bounced over 1100 at one point. It makes me feel MUCH better about my +1600 EGT I BRIEFLY put on her the other day playing around. Anyway I just thought I'd share with you my findings running both gauges or the same sensor.

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so which is better digital or dial?
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I tend to want to believe my manual dial gauge. Is that because it's reading lower, maybe partly but also the way the digital fluctuates SO much it just seems to be off. I figure there is less to screw up in a manual gauge vs. a digital - plus ISSPRO is in the gauge business, Bully Dog isn't.

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thats a big difference in temps! does either company have any specs on the temp tolerance on their products?

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Yeah that's why I was so freaked out about my EGT increase when I moved to the Bully Dog - turns out it WASN'T - the friggin gauge is high. I'm temped to get a 3rd manual gauge just to verify. Actually my Stage 3 water/meth kit that's coming in I think shows EGT's. THIS should be interesting.

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I have also noticed with my commander, that my PSI numbers are lower on my boost count. When I was running manual guages, I could get to 24-25. The Highest I have showed with the commander is 18-20. And the 20 was just for a split second.

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My Outlook Monitor shows my highest at 43 or 46, something along those lines. Maybe I should by the head studs now.

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I am pondering what I should do with my old analog gauge a-pillar setup. It's still in the truck and functional, minus the pyro. I unhooked the probe and plugged in the TST probe. The remote stays on and displays my temps and boost pressure when I actually turn the TST "off" and i've played around with the truck just on the programmer. Temps seem to be in the same range as they were when I was using the analog setup. Boost reads from the map sensor on the TST, vs the plastic pressure line from the intake to the gauge and they are right on par with each other. I was thinking about drilling another hole and mounting the old probe in it, but I may just hook both wires together to the single probe and not worry about it.

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Is Is Nessacary To Have Multiple Pyro Taps Into The Manifold If You Have More Than One Egt Gauge??

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As far as i know you can run multiple pyros off one thermocouple. In fact alot of chips/tuners i have seen say that they will plug right into your existing thermocouple.

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