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A Battle Of WAXES!

For those of you whom dont know me all that well, on the side from my normal job, i actually enjoy detailing cars for some people i work with. For a few years now I have been using liquid glass wax was pretty impressed. Recently, Bunch of buddies of mine were talking up the new turtle wax line of wax called ICE. So i figured today, while the wife, son, and myself were at Wallyworld grocery shopping, i would sneak the Ice Liquid clay bar and ice polish in the cart. Once i got home i was prompted to perform the test and see which has more pros than cons.

Picture 1-the players involved.

Picture 2-The H20 Test

Picture 3-The wax stage before buffing off.


The rounds of the fight were
1. Cost
2. Application/Removal
3. Water Repel
4. Availability

1. Cost
Liquid glass pre-cleaner -9.95
Liquid glass wax 19.95-24.95

Ice Liquid Clay Bar 14.90
Ice Polish 18.90

2. Application-pre cleaners
Liquid glass- I put this on with a older style shake you to death buffer. I dont like to use high speed buffers for fear of thin clear coat somewhere, so with the ole "weeble wobble" buffer its hard to hurt the paint.

Turtle Wax ICE-This stuff was strange for me. You put it on with enclosed applicator and just apply pressure and wipe back and forth on hood. Not so much of the ole elbow grease small circle motion.

3. Removal-Pre cleaners
Liquid glass-comes off really easy, leaves no streaks even on my dark paint.

Turtle Wax ICE-You spray the hose on it and wipe it off with microfiber cloth. Then had to shammy it back dry again.

REMARKS:
Both looked to do the same job. Noticed that the water beaded up where the liquid glass pre cleaner was. Water just coated the side of truck where the ice liquid clay bar was. It almost clung to the paint.

4. Application of Wax

Liquid glass-wipe on it back and forth motions.

Turtle Wax Ice-wipe on in back and forth motions leaving a coat on entire surface. Since it was clear, i didnt know how well it would show up.

REMARKS: The Turtle Wax ice was really easy to apply. A little easier than the Liquid glass. It really dont leave as think of a coat as the liquid glass, but its just the nature of the wax. It is thin like water.

Removal Of Wax:
Liquid glass-You have to get your timing just right with this stuff. Leave it on a hair too long and it takes more elbow grease. I noticed streaks once it was off. After hosing it off and wiping it dry with micro cloth, the streaks are gone.

Ice-Comes off easy as pie, but do not put on very thick at all or you will be all day waiting for it to dry.

3. Water test

The picture speaks for itself. Left side of hood, liquid glass. Right side of hood turtle wax ice. It really was a big difference! Picture really dont do all the justice. The test was only with 1 coat of liquid glass too. It works even better with putting a coat on, buffing off, and then letting it sit in sun for a few hours, cool it down, apply another following the sun baking process, then a third.

4. Availability
The Turtle wax ice is everywhere now. Easy to find.

Liquid glass is more hard to find. You can find it in Napa and western autos.




My OPINIONS: I think i am going to stick with my liquid glass. Once you get 2-3 coats of that stuff on, it actually fills the swirl marks in your paint and makes them disappear. I like to think of it as adding clear coat. The turtle wax ice is much easier to work with. I think overall according to my testing method, Turtle wax ice won 2 rounds and tied on 1. Liquid glass won 1 round and tied on 1. Overall winner Turtle wax. The finished product looks the same. You cant tell one side was done with one vs the other. Tomorrow at work i will ask people to try and figure out which was which by sight and feel. Overall it was kinda fun to kill my sunday night in the driveway. Maybe next time Mequires will go up in there as well.
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Sittin here i just realized that really the water repel section of the test should carry more weight. You wouldnt want the availability of the wax to be just as important as one of the main reasons we wax our vehicles. Either way you should try them both yourself and then make your judgement. Thanks

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How does it compair to the "basic" DuPont Teflon series? I seem to like that for the race car sim- it eats the fingerprints well and get alot of compliments on it- its something that gets wiped down alot during the day and recoated when its kinda in the shade or cools down- almost every day, less now with the hot sun... Just curious... plus its "cheap" compaired to the ones you listed- about $6 at Wally World...

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When i finished my test today, i sprayed the left side of the hood down with the Dupont Teflon spray wax (happened to have some because it worked great on my harley). Then i hosed it again and believe it or not, the side the teflon wax was on now beaded water the same as the turtle wax side. I would like to try to teflon wax that dupont has. Havent bought any yet. Will next time I go to walmart. How easy does the liquid wax come off? All i have delt with is the dupont spray wax and its great. easy on and EASY EASY off. I did notice the dupont spray wax had some difficulty adhearing to the liquid glass. It did not bead up water as good as the liquid glass.

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I used the ice on my truck over the weekend in direct sun 103 degrees as a matter of fact. Works great! I have a white truck, might make a difference, but I am extremely impressed with the ice. Beads of like crazy and easy to use. Real easy. All my buddies are jeleous b/c it was so quick amd easy. We will see how it last though.


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Thanks for the great review. I use 3m HandPolish and I will not go to anything else that is on the market.


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well friday i did my truck with the liquid clay bar and gave the ice a shot. Getting the ice off was a mother. I just let it sit until the next morning then it came off a little easier. I did notice I had to really work to get it all off. It was a little streaky but it looks good. I think it has to do with the humidity in this area.

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uh... wash? wax?
I don't understand the discussion.

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You can't talk about paint care without mentioning Meguiar's. There may be some better products out there but you can't beat the bang for the buck you get from Meguiar's. I've been using their stuff for 15 years and have never been disappointed. Sure you can spend $40 for a bottle of wax but why when the Professional Series and a buffer turns out an almost perfect shine every time.

If I was single and rubbed my truck with a diaper every day then I might budget for that, but as a husband and father of two great kids, my time and budget priorities do not always point to the transportation side.

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You should definitely look into trying out the meguires profesional products...Its a 3 step process with cleaner wax, then a polish then an actual wax, but I still havn't seen a shine like that

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