It seems there are always new owners, old owners with first time problems and prospective owners coming on the forum. The owners are usually asking about certain problems they are having, asking what they should be looking for or how to fix it. The prospective owners want to know what to look for in a purchase (kudos to them for being proactive).
The first things they are usually asked is “Do you have a monitor?” or “Have you checked for codes?” Many of these newbs have no idea what a monitor is and in some cases not even what a “code” is.
The purpose of this thread is to put the together a comprehensive list of monitoring and scanning solutions along with their pros and cons. My intention is to be able to reference this information early on in those help request threads and hopefully allow the person in need to evaluate his/her situation and choose a solution that works best for their purposes. I think most all of the 100 post and up crowd here realize what an invaluable tool a monitoring solution is, but the new guys do not have the luxury of our experience and are at the mercy of whoever decides to try to help out. Obviously, that individual is likely to push their preference for that individual to use. While there is nothing wrong with this, it may not be the best option for that particular individual and with their ignorance of the subject they are likely to choose the offered option. I hope that a quick read of this thread will educate the individual enough to make an informed decision. This thread is not intended to discuss “what” to monitor, just to show the various hardware and software options available for that purpose. Everyone should read the Monitoring Thread to get a better understanding of “what” to monitor.
I also would prefer that we not debate which is the "best" option, since everyone's needs and wants are not the same.
I am going to start it off by listing the solutions that I know about and the knowledge I have of those options. I encourage anyone who will, to add to my list, correct my errors and expand on things that I am no doubt going to overlook or leave out. I’ll try to keep the OP updated with additional input as best as I can.
I will give full disclosure up front and say that the only monitoring options I have personally used are as follows: Scangauge II, a BlueTooth OBDII adapter with Android and PC software, the SCT X4 and the Edge Gryphon FICM tuner from PHP. I have seen the Edge CTS but never personally used it or really messed with it.
Enough babble, let’s get started.
AutoEnginuity - Price - $360:
CNC Fabrication LLC, Diesel Performance, AUTOENGINUITY TOTAL FORD SCANTOOL BUNDLE SP03 ?99-?16
Not as much a permanent monitoring solution as a scanning and diagnostic tool, though I believe it does have monitoring capability. It is PC based and has quite a bit of capability. Not to the level of the Ford IDS software, but it is reasonably affordable in comparison. I will not discuss the IDS software due my lack of knowledge and its prohibitive pricing structure. Maybe someone will expand on it in a future post.
ForScan - Price varies:
Download FORScan
A free software available for PC. There are Android and an iOS versions that do require a small investment. (about $5 for Android, unsure of the iOS cost) I have played with the PC version and it has some pretty decent diagnostic capability, especially for the price. I have also looked at the Android version, but have not messed with it enough to have an opinion yet.
Scangauge II - Price - $140 & up:
https://www.amazon.com/ScanGauge-Automotive-Computer-Customizable-Real-Time/dp/B000AAMY86/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1469394427&sr=1-1&keywords=for+scangauge+ii
DashBoss - Price $170:
DashBoss | A Brain Scan for your Vehicle
Edge Insight CS/CTS - Price ??:
Edge Insight CS2 - Price ??:
Insight Cs2 84030
Edge Insight CTS2 - Price $430:
Insight Cts2 84130
SCT Livewire TS+ - Price - $600:*
https://www.sctflash.com/Products/unfiltered-product/SCTLWTSP/livewire-tsplus
SCT X4 - Price - $400: *
https://www.sctflash.com/Products/unfiltered-product/SCTX4/x4-performance-programmer
*I should note that I don’t personally recommend a combo tuner/monitor due to the issue of losing any custom tunes if the tuner is left visible and stolen.
Bluetooth OBDII adapters (all require third party software):
There are almost infinite possibilities in terms of a BT OBDII adapter. They range in price from around $5 to $100 dollars and probably more. There are exceptions, but you usually get what you pay for. I will not begin to list all of them to start with, but will be glad to edit this area with other options as they are added to the thread. I will only list the ones I am familiar with for now.
OBDLink MX - List price - $99: (currently $80 and on sale often)
https://www.scantool.net/obdlink-mxbt/
https://www.scantool.net/obdlink-mxwf/
OBDLink LX – List price - $50:
https://www.scantool.net/obdlink-lxbt/
PLX Kiwi2 - no longer available from PLX
See my thread on adding EGT and FP to BT Android apps here: http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/ge...fuel-pressure-more-dashcommand-torquepro.html
Third Party Bluetooth/Wifi adapter software (Android, iOS and Windows):
Torque Pro:
Play Store - Torque Pro - Android
DashCommand - Price $20:
Play Store - DashCommand Android
PPE Online Store - iOS
PPE Online Store - Windows
The first things they are usually asked is “Do you have a monitor?” or “Have you checked for codes?” Many of these newbs have no idea what a monitor is and in some cases not even what a “code” is.
The purpose of this thread is to put the together a comprehensive list of monitoring and scanning solutions along with their pros and cons. My intention is to be able to reference this information early on in those help request threads and hopefully allow the person in need to evaluate his/her situation and choose a solution that works best for their purposes. I think most all of the 100 post and up crowd here realize what an invaluable tool a monitoring solution is, but the new guys do not have the luxury of our experience and are at the mercy of whoever decides to try to help out. Obviously, that individual is likely to push their preference for that individual to use. While there is nothing wrong with this, it may not be the best option for that particular individual and with their ignorance of the subject they are likely to choose the offered option. I hope that a quick read of this thread will educate the individual enough to make an informed decision. This thread is not intended to discuss “what” to monitor, just to show the various hardware and software options available for that purpose. Everyone should read the Monitoring Thread to get a better understanding of “what” to monitor.
I also would prefer that we not debate which is the "best" option, since everyone's needs and wants are not the same.
I am going to start it off by listing the solutions that I know about and the knowledge I have of those options. I encourage anyone who will, to add to my list, correct my errors and expand on things that I am no doubt going to overlook or leave out. I’ll try to keep the OP updated with additional input as best as I can.
I will give full disclosure up front and say that the only monitoring options I have personally used are as follows: Scangauge II, a BlueTooth OBDII adapter with Android and PC software, the SCT X4 and the Edge Gryphon FICM tuner from PHP. I have seen the Edge CTS but never personally used it or really messed with it.
Enough babble, let’s get started.
AutoEnginuity - Price - $360:
CNC Fabrication LLC, Diesel Performance, AUTOENGINUITY TOTAL FORD SCANTOOL BUNDLE SP03 ?99-?16
Not as much a permanent monitoring solution as a scanning and diagnostic tool, though I believe it does have monitoring capability. It is PC based and has quite a bit of capability. Not to the level of the Ford IDS software, but it is reasonably affordable in comparison. I will not discuss the IDS software due my lack of knowledge and its prohibitive pricing structure. Maybe someone will expand on it in a future post.
ForScan - Price varies:
Download FORScan
A free software available for PC. There are Android and an iOS versions that do require a small investment. (about $5 for Android, unsure of the iOS cost) I have played with the PC version and it has some pretty decent diagnostic capability, especially for the price. I have also looked at the Android version, but have not messed with it enough to have an opinion yet.
Scangauge II - Price - $140 & up:
https://www.amazon.com/ScanGauge-Automotive-Computer-Customizable-Real-Time/dp/B000AAMY86/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1469394427&sr=1-1&keywords=for+scangauge+ii
- Standalone solution, no additional hardware required or available
- A simple 4 “gauge” monitor with digital readouts.
- Small and fairly inconspicuous
- Costs around $140 on Amazon
- Reads and clears trouble codes
- Ford specific codes must be hand entered, not hard, but a bit tedious (pre-programmed units are available but are more expensive)
- Pretty easy to come by in most locations, so could be the only option in a pinch.
- Usually available at Advanced Auto, AutoZone, etc. (will cost more than Amazon)
- Maximum of 4 PIDs monitored at time.
DashBoss - Price $170:
DashBoss | A Brain Scan for your Vehicle
- iOS only – Requires an iOS device connected via bluetooth
- expandable to add fuel pressure (FP) and exhaust gas temp (EGT)
- pretty capable as a monitor and will read trouble codes
- Costs $170 + expansion modules
- more?
Edge Insight CS/CTS - Price ??:
- Standalone solution, no additional hardware “required” (expansion available)
- 8 gauge display (please correct, if needed)
- Reads and clears trouble codes
- Expandable to add FP and EGT
- Fairly outdated since newer models are out, but might be available fairly cheap
Edge Insight CS2 - Price ??:
Insight Cs2 84030
- Standalone solution, no additional hardware “required” (expansion available)
- 2.4” screen
- Monitor 16 PIDs at one time ?? (please correct, if needed)
- Reads and clears trouble codes
- Expandable to add FP and EGT
- Newest model
- $300 + expansion modules
Edge Insight CTS2 - Price $430:
Insight Cts2 84130
- Standalone solution, no additional hardware “required” (expansion available)
- 5” screen
- Monitor 16 PIDs at one time ?? (please correct, if needed)
- Reads and clears trouble codes
- Expandable to add FP and EGT
- Newest model
- $430 + expansion modules
SCT Livewire TS+ - Price - $600:*
https://www.sctflash.com/Products/unfiltered-product/SCTLWTSP/livewire-tsplus
- Combination Tuner and Monitor
- Standalone solution, no additional hardware “required” (expansion available)
- 4” screen
- Monitor ?? PIDs at one time ?? (Someone please provide info)
- Reads and clears trouble codes
- Expandable to add FP and EGT
- $600 + expansion modules
SCT X4 - Price - $400: *
https://www.sctflash.com/Products/unfiltered-product/SCTX4/x4-performance-programmer
- Combination Tuner and Monitor
- Standalone solution, no additional hardware “required” (expansion available)
- 2.5” screen (approximately, not listed on website and I didn’t measure it)
- Monitor up to 8 PIDs at one time
- Reads and clears trouble codes
- Expandable to add FP and EGT
- $400 + expansion modules
*I should note that I don’t personally recommend a combo tuner/monitor due to the issue of losing any custom tunes if the tuner is left visible and stolen.
Bluetooth OBDII adapters (all require third party software):
There are almost infinite possibilities in terms of a BT OBDII adapter. They range in price from around $5 to $100 dollars and probably more. There are exceptions, but you usually get what you pay for. I will not begin to list all of them to start with, but will be glad to edit this area with other options as they are added to the thread. I will only list the ones I am familiar with for now.
OBDLink MX - List price - $99: (currently $80 and on sale often)
https://www.scantool.net/obdlink-mxbt/
https://www.scantool.net/obdlink-mxwf/
- Supports MS-CAN and SW-CAN protocols
- Very fast PID updates (advertised as the fastest available)
- Small and unobtrusive
- Comes with Android and PC software
- Available in both BT and wifi versions
- Turns on and off automatically
OBDLink LX – List price - $50:
https://www.scantool.net/obdlink-lxbt/
- Very fast PID updates (advertised as the fastest available)
- Small and unobtrusive
- Comes with Android and PC software
- Turns on and off automatically
PLX Kiwi2 - no longer available from PLX
- Reasonable PID update speed
- Expandable to add non-OBDII sensors with optional iMFD adapter and supporting modules.
- Available in both BT and wifi versions (It appears both versions have been discontinued, but there may be some still available on Amazon and probably eBay)
- Turns off automatically, but does not turn back on automatically
See my thread on adding EGT and FP to BT Android apps here: http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/ge...fuel-pressure-more-dashcommand-torquepro.html
Third Party Bluetooth/Wifi adapter software (Android, iOS and Windows):
Torque Pro:
Play Store - Torque Pro - Android
- Requires a BT, wifi or USB OBDII adapter and an Android device
- The most popular option of this class, so lots of help with issues
- Highly customizable gauge layouts
- Monitor 16+ PIDs at one time
- Reads and clears trouble codes
- Fairly easy for novice or non-computer guy/gal to setup
- Ford Extended PIDs are built-in and only have to be enabled.
- Custom PIDs can be entered
- Pretty active forum for help and discussion
- Price - $5
DashCommand - Price $20:
Play Store - DashCommand Android
PPE Online Store - iOS
PPE Online Store - Windows
- Requires a BT, wifi or USB OBDII adapter and an Android, iOS or Windows device)
- Highly customizable gauge layouts
- Monitor 16+ PIDs at one time
- Very capable
- Highly customizable, but requires Windows and the DashXL program to create custom dashboards.
- Many custom dashboards already available for download on their website, but getting ones with the Enhanced Ford PIDs we need is a crapshoot
- Not very easy for novice or non-computer guy/gal to setup actual dashboards.
- Simple gauge layouts are not that difficult, but more involved than Torque Pro
- Ford Extended PIDs are not built-in requires another $10 purchase
- Custom equations can be entered, but it’s not a simple task
- Pretty active forum for help and discussion
- Price - $10 + $10 for Ford PIDs ($20)