I See We Drove Banks Off As A Sponsor......

[RadarRider]

Originally Posted by Dave

Thats not entirely true though either Corey Especially on the not learning part.

Have you ever towed with a Banks 6 gun on a truck? Let me tell you something Defueling with a load behind you sucks balls.Especially when towing up a hill. Its not the proper way to do things. Thats why I and many others steer people away from banks even when all they are looking for is a small upgrade, other than hard parts

Also most research on a Banks product consists of looking at the shiny 4 page ad in a magazine. You dont see many people recommend Banks tuning here or on any other forum do you? There are reasons for that. And although I agree some of it is because of bashing. But alot of it isnt.

I actually have towed with a Six-Gun & Big Hoss module with the TransCommand & I've never had a defueling problem. I had set the Six-Gun's limits to the highest possible & also had a boost fooler. Although I did like my Banks products @ one time, I had caught the bug in the worst way & I knew Banks couldn't go any further with what I was looking for. If I hadn't caught the bug, I'd still probably be 90% Banks equipped. To tell you the truth, as much as I absolutely love my TW chip & also how much respect I have for Tony with all the help & supprot he's given me, I'm still having problems with my trans tunes in all of it's settings even after having Tony reburn it as where I absolutely loved the performance the TransCommand gave me 1st shot even though it was a PITA separate module to install. I have since sold the TransCommand to my instructor for his '02 F-250 gasser & he loves it, believe it or not!

[Dave]

The trans command is a decent product. Especially if you are just looking to firm up your shifts on an otherwise stock truck.


But here again lies my point. To properly tune your truck with banks you have to spend 500-1000 bucks on a 6 gun depending on if your truck is a 7.3 6.0 or 6.4. Then a nother few hundred on a trans command to get it to shift correctly.

Why go that route when you can spend 500 or less on a custom chip or SCT for a 7.3 or 6.0 and get it all done with one unit? Thats the point most are trying to make here. The other point is, Corey do you realize what the 6 gun really is? Its just an adjustable 10 k mod with gauges. Anyone can do the 10k mod for $20 bucks or less.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by RadarRider

I actually have towed with a Six-Gun & Big Hoss module with the TransCommand & I've never had a defueling problem. I had set the Six-Gun's limits to the highest possible & also had a boost fooler. Although I did like my Banks products @ one time, I had caught the bug in the worst way & I knew Banks couldn't go any further with what I was looking for. If I hadn't caught the bug, I'd still probably be 90% Banks equipped. To tell you the truth, as much as I absolutely love my TW chip & also how much respect I have for Tony with all the help & supprot he's given me, I'm still having problems with my trans tunes in all of it's settings even after having Tony reburn it as where I absolutely loved the performance the TransCommand gave me 1st shot even though it was a PITA separate module to install. I have since sold the TransCommand to my instructor for his '02 F-250 gasser & he loves it, believe it or not!

How heavy have you towed with that combo? Try doing it without the trans command. When I say heavy I dont mean towing the boat. Im talking 10k or more behind you

[RadarRider]

Originally Posted by Dave

The trans command is a decent product. Especially if you are just looking to firm up your shifts on an otherwise stock truck.


But here again lies my point. To properly tune your truck with banks you have to spend 500-1000 bucks on a 6 gun depending on if your truck is a 7.3 6.0 or 6.4. Then a nother few hundred on a trans command to get it to shift correctly.

Why go that route when you can spend 500 or less on a custom chip or SCT for a 7.3 or 6.0 and get it all done with one unit? Thats the point most are trying to make here. The other point is, Corey do you realize what the 6 gun really is? Its just an adjustable 10 k mod with gauges. Anyone can do the 10k mod for $20 bucks or less.

That's the thing though, Dave; I did buy a chip with everything in 1 & it had fried an IDM & is giving me unsatifactory shifts. I had bought the entire Big Hoss bundle originally(you already know this), & I had actually gotten a deal from Ryan @ Banks with some talking & stalling him. The whole kit only cost me $2500 instead of the usual $3800 including the Six-Gun, Big Hoss module & TC. Yes, I know the Six-Gun's a glorified 10k mod, but the issue @ hand is it's defueling problem due to it's limiting capabilities. I didn't have a problem with with it, though. I never had a problem with any of it aside of misreading a diagram in the instruction manual for the TC. I am not trying to bash Tony 1 bit, but remember that bad batch of chips going around where people's trucks would stall when they changed their settings? How about my IDM? How about my trans?

[RadarRider]

Originally Posted by Dave

How heavy have you towed with that combo? Try doing it without the trans command. When I say heavy I dont mean towing the boat. Im talking 10k or more behind you

I've got an F-250, not a 350. The most I've ever pulled was 8200#s.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by RadarRider

That's the thing though, Dave; I did buy a chip with everything in 1 & it had fried an IDM & is giving me unsatifactory shifts. I had bought the entire Big Hoss bundle originally(you already know this), & I had actually gotten a deal from Ryan @ Banks with some talking & stalling him. The whole kit only cost me $2500 instead of the usual $3800 including the Six-Gun, Big Hoss module & TC. Yes, I know the Six-Gun's a glorified 10k mod, but the issue @ hand is it's defueling problem due to it's limiting capabilities. I didn't have a problem with with it, though. I never had a problem with any of it aside of misreading a diagram in the instruction manual for the TC. I am not trying to bash Tony 1 bit, but remember that bad batch of chips going around where people's trucks would stall when they changed their settings? How about my IDM? How about my trans?

1. Its unlikely Tonys chip fried your IDM.
2. Did you discuss the shift problem with Tony and get it resolved. It should be easier to do so now as he's more available. He will take care of it. You do know the reason he was hard to contact for a while dont you?

[ianstew]

How would a chip fry an IDM???

[Dave]

Originally Posted by ianstew

How would a chip fry an IDM???

Yeah thats my point. Its impossible.

Corey the tow capacity between a 250 and a 350 is the same until you get to the 350drw.

Do you know what the actual difference between a 7.3 equipped 250 and 350 is?

8200lb's you can pull that with a half ton legally. Stretch that things legs once. Ive had 15k or more behind my 7.3 and my 6.0

[ianstew]

LOL, i thought it was impossible, i just didn't want to call BS

[RadarRider]

Originally Posted by Dave

1. Its unlikely Tonys chip fried your IDM.
2. Did you discuss the shift problem with Tony and get it resolved. It should be easier to do so now as he's more available. He will take care of it. You do know the reason he was hard to contact for a while dont you?

Yes, I have discussed the shift issues with Tony & yes, I also know why he was hard to contact him & DID NOT bother him once while his daughter was hospitalized. I'm far better than that & have all the respect in the world for him & his family. How did my IDM get fried?