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post #1 of 18 Old 07-11-2014, 01:50 AM Thread Starter
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Do I need a medium duty engine in my pickup?

So in my debate over which truck to buy all I hear from the Cummins side is how their engine is medium duty grade while the Powerstroke is more light truck grade. My question is, since I'm not pulling heavy loads or putting mega miles on my truck, do I really care whatever grade the engine is? If I'm not working the engine as hard as it is made for maybe I am hurting it? 99.9% of the time my Harley can do the same job that my truck does. Thanks.

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They will both do the same job. As of right now, I think the Ford will do a little better than the almighty Cummins. I swapped out my 6.0 for the Cummins, and although the Cummins has more torque off the line, the 6.0 was a pure beast when and if it actually ran. These new 6.7 powerstrokes are turning out to be a really good motor. Drive them both and make your decision.

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Those guys are simply cummin all over you. The only way they can blow a load is to erect the idea that their Cummins is more "heavy duty" than a Powerstroke. I don't understand how something with more torque and more horsepower could be considered a "lighter" truck grade. I don't buy into that "not working the truck hard enough" crap either. Get yourself a new 6.7 Powerstroke...
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Sounds like you are not towing much, so it does not matter. In a daily driver you will be happier with the PS. There are a bunch of people that drive diesels for bragging rights, so pick a side.

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Ford dropped the cummins in favor of the powerstroke in the f-650/750 and the 450/550 have always had the powerstroke so I don't see how it's not a medium duty engine.
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Ford dropped the cummins in favor of the powerstroke in the f-650/750 and the 450/550 have always had the powerstroke so I don't see how it's not a medium duty engine.
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I drove both before I bought my 2012 ford and drove them both again before I bought my 2015 ford WOW big improvement on 15 over my 12.

One thing I really wanted was the 6spd manual, but I went with the ford, because I just liked how the ford rode better.
Before my 2012 ford I had 04 dodge 3500 with 430,000 miles that 5.9l cummins was a great motor as was the 7.3l ford, but these 6.7L powerstrokes seem like they are holding up very well and they run like they are chipped from the factory.

Just have to remember there is allot of emission control crap on all of them now know matter what you buy from a new farm tractor to your truck the government as regulated them to the point they will never hold up like the older ones.

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The new Powerstroke is a medium duty engine. It is going into the F-650/F-750, which is a medium duty truck.

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I just had a 2014 Ram 3500 with the Cummins. Never again will I buy one. In the seven months I owned the truck, it was in the shop 8 times. I only had a total of 2460 miles on the truck. Seems to me that the Cummins isn't so "medium duty." That, or Chrysler's quality control is seriously lacking.

Just head over to the Cummins forum and check out the issues thread: I wasn't the only person with the check engine light ordeal.

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You can't even delete the newer Rams, which goes against everything I've come to know and love in this world.
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You can't even delete the newer Rams, which goes against everything I've come to know and love in this world.
I don't care about the whole delete thing. Spend some time in China or Mexico City and you'll understand how nice it is to have clean air.

But, when I buy a truck for $60-$70k, I do not intend to have a monthly visit scheduled to go to the dealership for various issues. I don't care if Clessie Cummins made then engine himself.

Ford, IMHO, builds a better quality truck. Cummins seems to be resting on their laurels and reputation. Ford seems to be learning from their mistakes and trying to make it right.

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