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Towing and Parking Assist

I tow a few different trailers and I might tow any one of them every 8-10 weeks or so. To keep my sanity, I need to turn the parking assist off to be "beep" free while in reverse with a trailer behind me. However, I have noticed that on the trailers with electric brakes, the truck can "see" that a trailer is connected and then remembers that I turned the parking assist off the last time I reversed with a trailer and it keeps the parking assist off without any input from me. On the smaller utility trailers without brakes, I have to turn the parking assist off.

So here is my question, is there a way to add a resistor, light or widget to the trailers without brakes so that the truck will automatically turn the parking assist off? I do understand that I can turn this off in the menu and this will keep it off until I turn it back on instead of a key cycle.

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Towing and Parking Assist

It'll probably take more time than it's worth to figure out a fix? If you only tow those trailers once every couple months, why not just press the button a few times. And the truck didn't remember that you had parking assist off with the trailers. It just disables park assist anytime any trailer with brakes is hooked up I believe.


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The truck is just looking for a reference to ground to determine it has brakes, it does this through the magnets.

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The truck is just looking for a reference to ground to determine it has brakes, it does this through the magnets.
That's what I was wondering. I suppose that I could open up the 7-pin connector on the trailers and jumper the brake terminal to the tail light terminal. This should give it reference and when the brakes are energized, the tail lights will be energized but it shouldn't matter because the stops will be also anyways. What do you think?

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That's what I was wondering. I suppose that I could open up the 7-pin connector on the trailers and jumper the brake terminal to the tail light terminal. This should give it reference and when the brakes are energized, the tail lights will be energized but it shouldn't matter because the stops will be also anyways. What do you think?
The trailer brake terminal sends varying power loads to the electromagnetic brakes on the trailer. If you jump from there to the brake light terminal you will have 2 positives wired together. Your truck will probably tell you there is a trailer fault instead of seeing a trailer normally. I have wired many trailer plugs on truck and trailers over the last 14 years or more especially being an Ag science teacher in the shop. I wouldn't recommend jumping the two terminals.

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I wonder if it would work if you get an adapter with a 7 pin plug and wire in a small 12v light bulb between the brake and ground terminals. It wouldn't be as much electrical load as the brakes, but it may be enough to prevent the beeping.
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The issue with any of that is going to be when you hit the brake towing, you are going to send current down the brake wire. I would think you could wire it to a third brake light on the trailer if you wanted to. That would give the current somewhere to go, and would likely make the truck think there is a trailer connected. Know if you do this, the "third brake light" is going to vary in intensity as you brake harder or lighter. It might end up being a good safety factor...

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I wonder if it would work if you get an adapter with a 7 pin plug and wire in a small 12v light bulb between the brake and ground terminals. It wouldn't be as much electrical load as the brakes, but it may be enough to prevent the beeping.
I think this is going to be the easiest, most direct path. I'm going to try the jumper just because, on the way there. Thanks for the input here, guys.

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I think this is going to be the easiest, most direct path. I'm going to try the jumper just because, on the way there. Thanks for the input here, guys.
I tried it tonight with a test light on the ground and brake light terminals and it didn't fire the light or recognize it as a connected trailer. Then I put a multimeter on my trailer harness that has elec brakes and measured about 2ohms. The test light was around 90, so it may be looking for a lower initial resistance.
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