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Exclamation Snowstorm = Check Engine Light?

So leaving work today during the first real snowstorm of the season. I got a CEL and I don't know why. This Is what I did:

I remote started it from inside the building, and let it idle for 2-3 minutes before I got in it. I then proceeded to roll out of the parking lot at 1000 rpm. I stopped as I was leaving at a co-workers truck for 1 minute. When I got back in my truck the CEL was on.

I will be going to the Dealer in the morning, but any idea now might help me fall asleep.

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Didn't they have a problem with snow packing in the air cleaner?

Edit- I don't know if this is it or not just a thought-TSB
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Some 2011-2012 F-Super Duty vehicles equipped with a 6.7L engine may experience a loss of power due to engine air cleaner (ACL) snow packing when operated in extreme snow conditions or when equipped with a snow plow. This concern may result in diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) P0299 and/or P1247. A low restriction secondary foam filter is now available to resolve this concern


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Didn't they have a problem with snow packing in the air cleaner?

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Some 2011-2012 F-Super Duty vehicles equipped with a 6.7L engine may experience a loss of power due to engine air cleaner (ACL) snow packing when operated in extreme snow conditions or when equipped with a snow plow. This concern may result in diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) P0299 and/or P1247. A low restriction secondary foam filter is now available to resolve this concern
I do believe I read that in a SnowTect mag.

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Thanks guys, I have read about the snow blocking the filter. When I dropped it off today they only had time to scan it, not fix it.

The code that caused the CEL said "contaminated DEF". Sorry I don't know what the code # was. The guy said it's probably the sensor. I hope that's what it is, otherwise I am thinking someone might of messed with my truck. I work with a lot of bitter bitter jacka$$es.

Either way I will be buying a locking gas door.

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I'd seriously doubt that idling across a parking lot at 1000rpm would suck in enough snow to clog your filter. The snow packing was more a problem for folks plowing snow where you had it billowing up from the blade and being injested into the air intake.

Big, it hasn't really been cold enough yet to freeze the DEF (13°) So I suspect they are right that it is just a bad sensor. There have been a few of those reported ove the past couple of years.

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I'd seriously doubt that idling across a parking lot at 1000rpm would suck in enough snow to clog your filter. The snow packing was more a problem for folks plowing snow where you had it billowing up from the blade and being injested into the air intake.

Big, it hasn't really been cold enough yet to freeze the DEF (13°) So I suspect they are right that it is just a bad sensor. There have been a few of those reported ove the past couple of years.
Thanks painted horse. You are always so helpful. I will let you guys know what the dealership says tomorrow.

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I am pissed

Got called by Westland ford today around noon today to pick up my truck. They flashed the computer per TSB 11-12-03. CEL went off and they said everything was fine. Started driving my truck, and the CEL came on 5 mins after leaving.

Took it back to the dealer, same code P20E8. They said it was the DEF pump. I left my truck with them again. Get called 5 hours later that they were done replacing the pump, and no CEL is on. I go back again! (for the 3rd time). Get in my truck to leave, and before I get out of the parking the CEL is on AGAIN!

I left my truck with them for the 3rd night just now. And needless to say I am angry!

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Sounds to me like Westland is throwing parts at it.

If they replaced the DEF pump and you are still getting the code, then it wasn't the pump that was the problem.

Ask them to run around the block a few tims after they fix it today to make sure the light doesn't come before you get out of the parking lot.Tell them you'll be happy to pay for a gallon of diesel, so you don't have to spend another night in the shop.

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Sounds to me like Westland is throwing parts at it.

If they replaced the DEF pump and you are still getting the code, then it wasn't the pump that was the problem.

Ask them to run around the block a few tims after they fix it today to make sure the light doesn't come before you get out of the parking lot.Tell them you'll be happy to pay for a gallon of diesel, so you don't have to spend another night in the shop.
Got my truck back today, no codes so far.... I asked them to take it out after replacing everything, to prevent me from wasting more of my time.

They must of really wanted to make sure it was ok, and not see me again. They used 13.4 gallons of fuel!!! But they put $20 in it when they were done cause that buys almost 13 gallons right? (I am joking)

The real irritator here was the $31 in DEf he charged me, even though my tank was full when I brought it in, and they confirmed 3 times my stuff wasn't contaminated. They drained the tank and "washed it", so they had to charge me for DEF...

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