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post #1 of 77 Old 09-22-2012, 11:57 PM Thread Starter
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Pissing Match.

I got into a pissing match with a co-worker about towing and fuel economy. Give me your input on who's truck is better. Both our trucks are completely stock, and the details are as follows.

His ford 2008 6.4L crew cab long bed 3.73 gears 20" wheels with 34" tires.

Or my 2011 6.7L crew cab long bed 3.55 gears 18" wheels with 32" tires.

So we both have torqshifts but mine has the awesome 6 speed automatic, while he is in the stone age with just 5 (haha). I believe my truck has the best of both worlds, but he won't shut up about 3.73 vs 3.55. I keep telling Him the gear ratios in the new tranny is why my 3.55 is superior.

Let me know what you think. also we are towing about 10-12k normally.

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20" wheels with 3.73 gears are basically the same overall ratio as an 18" rear with 3:55 rings.

All being equal, I would guarantee the lower ratio rears would be better in towing and economy.
His stock 6.4L will be as economical as an Abrams tank. On the other hand, if both trucks delete, there will be nothing you can do to match his power and economy, no matter which RR ratio you are running.

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the size of the wheel doesn't matter its the size of the tire that matters.


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the size of the wheel doesn't matter its the size of the tire that matters.
Stock 20" carry with it an overall taller combination than a stock 18".
Adding taller tires obviously would change that.

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Stock trucks, I have 32" tires he has 34" tires. I think I wrote that...

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And we're saying that your gearing to the road might be almost identical.

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His is only a 5spd automatic?


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I'm guessing that you didn't lose nearly as much as it appeared. Spills are like that. The last beer that I spilled was like a million ounces.
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The Torqshift 5-speed 5R110 automatic transmission replaced the 4-speed in the 2003 model year truck with 6.0 L diesel engine. The TorqShift design in fact has six forward ratios, but only five are advertised, with the 'hidden' gear only used in extreme cold weather. The TorqShift 1st to 5th gear ratios are 3.11, 2.22, 1.55, 1.00, and 0.71:1. It also utilizes an alternate 4th gear, overdrive on 2nd gear of the 3-speed automatic component (0.72 x 1.55), that is 1.10:1 that is used under cold start conditions to aid engine and transmission warm up. On the TorqShift, once the Tow/Haul mode is activated it can help increase a driver's control when towing large loads up and down steep grades and automatically minimizes shifts and maximizes available torque. Upon descent, the Tow/Haul mode utilizes engine braking to help extend brake life and improve driver control. An adaptive shift function monitors the TorqShift's performance over its lifetime, and adjusts shift pressures in real time to assure consistent shift feel and compensate for wear. For ease of maintenance, the TorqShift's oil filter is a spin-off style, mounted on the passenger-side exterior of the transmission. Also the TorqShift's larger fluid lines and a larger transmission oil cooler help to assure cooler operating temperatures, even under the most demanding conditions. This was Ford's first automatic transmission to feature PTO. The transmission can be equipped with an integrated PTO provision (which automatically locks the torque converter providing power to the PTO gear when the operator turns on the PTO switch). .... Ford Super Duty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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I think you've got another pissin' contest going now!!

I agree that there is nothing economical about an '08 that is not deleted.

I'd rather have the taller gears for towing, but you're right that the 6sp tranny makes up for it.

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I think you've got another pissin' contest going now!!
Nah, I'm not trying to start another match.


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