Oil/Filter Change

[nolafishr]

I am going to look at a 2011 F250 6.7 Diesel and may have it this week if all goes well, I was wondering about the Oil/Filter Changes on the New Trucks/Engines, How much oil does it hold and how hard is it for the Filters?
I hope it is a lot better than what they have on the 6.4 Engines. I do not recall seeing this posted here and thought I would ask about it.

[John D]

13 quarts; very easy spin off filter.

[nolafishr]

Thanks for the Info, I like that it has a spin on oil filter now and takes a lil less oil than the 6.4 , what about the Fuel Filters, how hard are they to fool with and change and is it just one Fuel Filter? Are the service intervals still around every 5000 miles on the New Trucks? I am asking because I have not looked at one yet and was wondering about this, I will get a first hand look at one tomorrow.

[John D]

Two fuel filters. Botton is much easier to access, but theere have been reports of plastic nut breaking off - just use large vice grip chain pipe-wrench. Top is completely disposable as a sealed unit - way better way to keep final filter clean.

Still drtain lower unit monthly or more oftern if sensor warns of water.

Intervals still change both at same time, yet more miles between changes than 6.4.
normal every 3rd oil change or 22,500 miles.
"special" every 15,000 miles or 600 hours, whichever is first.
a lot of off-road and dusty 7,500 or 300 hours, whichever is first.

[sagebel]

Fuel filters are pretty easy. Did them yesterday. It is a little un-nerving wrenching on the lower filter bowl. As soon as the aftermarket gets something figured out for it, I'll have it. If you don't use a strap wrench, you will need a 32mm socket. The upper fuel filter is easy.

When changing the oil, position your pan back a bit. The oil will come straight out the back of the pan quickly.

[richc22a]

Originally Posted by sagebel

Fuel filters are pretty easy. Did them yesterday. It is a little un-nerving wrenching on the lower filter bowl. As soon as the aftermarket gets something figured out for it, I'll have it. If you don't use a strap wrench, you will need a 32mm socket. The upper fuel filter is easy.

When changing the oil, position your pan back a bit. The oil will come straight out the back of the pan quickly.

Perzactly!!! A good heads up!!!!

[mor4wd]

I just don't understand why they did that to the oil drain valve. I love that it only takes a quarter turn but it shoots straight back??? I managed to catch it all, but pay attention to where you put the pan. Personally I liked the cartridge oil filter on my 6.4 but the spin on is easy to get to at least. Spend the money to get the right size socket to take the frame mounted filter off. You'll just bugger it up with vice grips or channel locks.

[John D]

The socket fits onto the chassis mounted fuel filter's plastic nut, and it is that nut that has been reported to break off when trying to mover the 6: filter housing. I was not suggesting using a vice grip on the plastic nut, but rather a vice pipe wrench on the the 5-6 inch diameter filter housing that the plastic nut is tasked with twisting off.

Re the oil:
FUMOTO ENGINEERING
makes a fitting that replaces Ford's plastic plug. They buy the ford drain plug and insert their quick release drain system. It come in the N series ( part # PF250/F103-N includes a nipple to which you can attach a hose- this is the one to get!!) and standard (non-N) series. about $50. The nipple and hose size you use are pretty small, so I remove the plug after most of the oil has poured out into the pan, letting the last 1/2 inch come out with the full opening. Without the nipple you still have a straight back shot, just lower volume. the nipple with hose allows youto drain oil with zero chance of a miss/mess.

[ShirtaDay.com]

I've heard good things about those Fumoto drain plugs, but have yet to use one.

And yes, as stated, the intervals are much longer on the new '11s for both oil changes and FF's. You can (& should, according to Ford) actually rely on the truck to tell you when it's time to change the oil.

[Grizzly16]

Tracking the same....13 Quarts w/spin on and a drain plug that I'm not crazy about. Anybody aware of an aluminum oil pan out on the market yet?