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post #1 of 9 Old 12-16-2010, 07:07 PM Thread Starter
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2011 C+C HP ratings

So my 2005 F-450 is starting to show its age, and I've been eagerly awaiting the 6.7's so I could place my order for a new one. However, I just discovered that they are only rated at 300hp and 660lb/ft! I haven't spoken to my dealer yet, but does anyone suppose there is a way to get Ford to build me a truck with the higher tune (from what I understand that would mean a different turbo as well), or do you think there is a way to install it afterward and still maintain the factory warranty?

I've been pretty excited about this new engine since I heard about it, and it absolutely crushed me to find out that I would be getting a limp-wristed shadow of what everyone else is getting!
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Why would you not get the 400hp and 800tq?
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Limp wristed shadow. lol i didnt know the bigger trucks came with less. makes no sense to me at all. someone on here knows why though
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I believe the chassis cab trucks have come with a detuned motor and maybe a diff turbo to ensure longevity. Most people that buy these trucks need them for hard work and that's it. 300/660 will pull just about anything you put behind it albeit not the fastest of all trucks around.

You've also got to factor in that most of the consumers for these are large fleet customers and they don't want their employees driving a truck with that much power around, just creates more of a liability.
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the cab and chassis trucks are de tuned for longevity, as stated above.

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So should i assume that the 400/800 engines won't last very long? I realize that 300hp and 660lb/ft is likely plenty for what I'm doing (wrecker), but I still can't help feeling a little gyped!

When GM came out with their medium duty trucks (4500/5500) they offered either the 300hp duramax or a de-tuned 210hp Duramax. They had cited improved fuel economy as the reason for offering the lower powered engine, but at least they offered a choice! Why won't Ford do this?
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No that's not what it means at all. They just know that people who buy these trucks for personal use prefer having all the power they can get and most will not keep very long. I don't care what you buy if you have a truck putting down 400/800+ and you drive the crap out of it, you probably shouldn't expect 250k-500k trouble free miles. And before all the cummins and dmax guys come out and say bs, show me a 5.9/6.7c/6.6 that has had over 400hp/800tq for its entire life and driving like a commuter truck not an over the road one and all trouble free 250k+ miles.

The detuned trucks I'm sure get better fuel econ, which is far more important to a fleet customer in addition if the truck isn't run as hard it has a better chance of last a very long time with minimal problems.

Plus IMO if you're buying a 450+ chassis cab and are worrying about mighty power and performance then you're buying the wrong truck for the wrong reasons.

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There are many other difference's from the pickup trucks 400/800 to the cab and chassie trucks. The exhaust system is completely different including the size of the DPF and the location the the uri is injected. The turbo and intake system have major difference's between the two. These difference make the electronic side of the programming completely different, which is why no of the aftermarket tuning devise support the cab and chassie.
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If you didnt absolutly need a 450 and still wanted duel wheels, order a F350 Dully with a pickup box delete. I believe they are the same if you delete the bed, any cab and chassis has the less powerful tune/turbo.


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