Apology accepted...and THANKS!!!

[richc22a]

The 6.7 Scorpion was said to be Fords apology for the 6.0-6.4's. The main competition to the 6.7 would seem to be coming from GM so I every once in awhile check out the mighty dorothy max forum to see how the lil battle is shaking out and checking on the taxpayer investment.

The issues they are facing include (non isolated instances of) antifreeze leaking, shipments being frozen while they check inventory for a 'problem involving substandard parts', vibrations showing up in the drivetrain... it makes the 6.7 Ford's isolated issues seem minor in comparison. Parts companies that went bankrupt (and destroyed molds) from GM's financial woes have caused parts scarcity (GM did NOT PAY VENDORS with bail out funds??).

If the 6.7 had as many issues reported as the GM product, we would be wondering if the Powerstrokes issues were terminal. I for one have worked this truck, long distance, pulling, and have been impressed. Isolated failures, can be aggravating, irritating and extemely inconvenient, but nothing compared to a truck that may have inherent flaws....

[kschmidt64]

I've spent most of my truck time in a Ford, but I'm not sure I'd be throwing stones. It's been out longer, but the 6.7L has had more reported issues that I've seen than the new Duramax (but again, it came out a few months ahead of time). Examples:

Cam Failure

Bad NOx sensors (plus all the crushed DEF lines)

Some kind of control module failure

Dash rattling

Leaking antifreeze (hey, just like your Duramax example!)

All the knock/tick threads from the HPP mode switching

Boost control software problem

6R140 Transmission failure

Shall I continue? There's plenty more.

All trucks are expected to have some issues when launching, but the 6.7L guys aren't exactly in a position to criticize at this point....

[setexan]

Subscribed…..!

[setexan]

Not to sway the topic away from the inferior LML but:

rich,

How do you like the 3.55 gears in your truck? Have you noticed any low-end power problems towing or does it pull well from a stop. What kind of mileage are you getting with the truck…towing, city, highway?

[IFlyEm]

Originally Posted by kschmidt64

I've spent most of my truck time in a Ford, but I'm not sure I'd be throwing stones. It's been out longer, but the 6.7L has had more reported issues that I've seen than the new Duramax (but again, it came out a few months ahead of time). Examples:

No start due to plugged DPF

All trucks are expected to have some issues when launching, but the 6.7L guys aren't exactly in a position to criticize at this point....

Feel free to remove this one. Whitenite has never owned a PS. He currently owns a Dodge and started the thread to troll.

[smokersteve]

so they paid us back with a GREAT(seriously awesome) truck that we have to buy to get it

[PUMPED 101]

Don't let "whitenite" see this....

[kschmidt64]

Originally Posted by IFlyEm

Feel free to remove this one. Whitenite has never owned a PS. He currently owns a Dodge and started the thread to troll.

Done. It did seem a little odd that a plugged DPF would cause a no-start. It'd have to be awfully plugged to do that.

[vrsc]

Originally Posted by setexan

Not to sway the topic away from the inferior LML but:

rich,

How do you like the 3.55 gears in your truck? Have you noticed any low-end power problems towing or does it pull well from a stop. What kind of mileage are you getting with the truck…towing, city, highway?

3.55 gearing is great. It's actually lower gearing with the way the new tranny is geared so you don't notice any lag. I had the 3.73 gears in my last powerstrokenation and the 3.55 hold their own.

[PUMPED 101]

Originally Posted by kschmidt64

I've spent most of my truck time in a Ford, but I'm not sure I'd be throwing stones. It's been out longer, but the 6.7L has had more reported issues that I've seen than the new Duramax (but again, it came out a few months ahead of time). Examples:

Cam Failure

Bad NOx sensors (plus all the crushed DEF lines)

Some kind of control module failure

Dash rattling

Leaking antifreeze (hey, just like your Duramax example!)

All the knock/tick threads from the HPP mode switching

Boost control software problem

6R140 Transmission failure

Shall I continue? There's plenty more.

All trucks are expected to have some issues when launching, but the 6.7L guys aren't exactly in a position to criticize at this point....

I'm pretty sure the Ford has undergone some more intensive design, engineering changes compared to the GM. Basically brand new engine, transmission, and some interior/exterior design. I could be wrong, as I don't follow GM.