I've heard about programmers, but it seems like nobody has a definite answer as to who's the best to buy. Maybe this new Powerstroke diesel is too complex for these backyard mechanics/tuners to figure out. I know from building & racing cars for the past 2 decades, everyone thinks theyre a tuner, but fall on their face when it's time to run what they brung, so some real info of what you guys have physically witnessed is what matters most. Also I'd like to hear about what's the best intake set-up & exhaust to get for my new F250, as well as any tricks/tips for it.
Much appreciated!
Programming is limited right now to a couple. H&S has one out, but it doesn't tune the transmission, I think there may be some other "canned" tunes out also but I'm not sure. If you're desperate to tune, then get the H&S, but Spartan is going to release their's any day now (hopefully) and I think they are the way to go.
As far as exhaust goes, unless you get a tuner with it, then you can only do a DPF back exhaust, and IMO, they don't improve anything.
Intake: Go with the AFE Stage II, but you may check out Banks intake. They claim to be better than the others.
I guess I will wait for these tuners to quit dragging their asses after almost a year of this particular model being out. I'll be patient, and wait to see what comes from Sparta. Besides, the last thing I want, is to just settle, and get all that's available, and then wish I had waited when someone puts out something worthwhile.
After almost 20 years of being a heavy modder on trucks, Vipers, & Vettes, I've wasted hundreds of thousands on the hyped up BS claims from vendors. I can show everyone here how to get 100MPG if you send me $1,000 bucks. Little free secret, never touch the gas pedal, you'll arrive @ your destination eventually.
Viola! See, I'm a tuner! All you guys now owe me!:hehe:
I kinda felt that way after reading some posts on here.
Not sure why these tuners are dragging their asses in this great Obama economy, by not putting out a good tuner?
I mean, after being around thousands of cars & trucks over the past 2 decades, it's not rocket science to create a good tune for the motor & trans on any vehicle! :dunno:
Maybe they need to spend a little less time @ Happy Hour, and quite possibly think there might be a few people out there with the new PowerStroke that would lay down some cash, and help with growing the tuners bank account a little:nod:
Does your brain actually process the **** that is spewing unintelligently from your mouth?? Do you have any clue what your talking about? You've made several references to "build race cars" for two decades implying that you have a common knowledge of motors......so this confuses me when I continue to read the rest of your moronic post. You refer to the people that produce these tunes/tuners as "shade tree and backyard" mechanics?? Who the hell do you think you are?? Why don't you call up Mick at Spartan and ask him just why exactly he's "dragging ***" with the 2011 Scorpion tune? I'm sure he'd be more than happy to point out to you how much of a moron you are. This stuff isn't as simple as tuning your TiVo to record your Jerry Springer re-runs while your out cruising Wal-mart parking lot for transexual hookers.
Would you rather a company rush a product to the market without thorough testing, you buy it, install it, then it blows up your mommas new truck?? I bet you'd be the first person on here bashing a well respected company saying "they blew your motor" with their ****ty tuner. I'd much rather wait until all the bugs are worked out and have much less headache post-install. Also, do you really feel your 6.7 is that under powered?? Honestly?? Did you own a 2008-2010 model F250 that was actually your truck? If all these backyard diesel monkeys are taking too long for your liking, why don't you just tune that ***** yourself Mr. Race Car Man?
Spartan's new tune will be out soon enough. It will be the best on the market and they will be able to back it up too. Yes, there will most likely be "bugs" to work out even after extensive testing and QC, but you can bet your *** that these "*** dragging shade tree boys" will answer the phone when you call and make sure your **** is fixed correctly.
"This stuff isn't as simple as tuning your TiVo to record your Jerry Springer re-runs while your out cruising Wal-mart parking lot for transexual hookers. "
After a bit of simple research it appears that Bigmike runs with a self made elite crowd on the Viper Forum where they seem to have more money than common sense. They seem to refere to each other as "**** suckers" pretty regularly. This must be a code name for Master Tuner and Senior Race Car Builder in the Viper realm.
Mike, you have to remember that there is always someone bigger and meaner than you are. Just because you are big, doesn't imply i am small. You also have no idea who is on the other side of the keyboard. I've been in the iron game for 15yrs now and I know my way around a gym and ring. I guess on top of being a race car builder you are a golden glove boxer? A MMA fighter?? Or just a natural born badass?? So, you might not be pushing my ribs in like you thought. As for your financial status, I've got a nice big photo albumn of my toys also....cars, trucks, boats, choppers, and bulldogs just like you. You nobody special man. Your not tough, your not smart, I doubt you can drive, and you don't know dick about diesels. You picked the wrong guy to get in a pissing contest with. I'm smarter than you, I'm just as big as you, but I know how to apply my strength, I got the same toys you do and better looking dogs!!
Damn Trev! You've benched pressed more than my 600lbs at the gym w/o any assistance too? I never got my golden gloves, so I guess I'll just have to make due with my measly black sash in Shaolin Kung Fu for almost 18 years. I'm sure you've riden with me & Sonny Barger, and the rest of my buddies out here in The Hells Angels too, so I owe you an apology. Maybe you'll be nice enough to give me your address, that way I'll send some of my friends over your place to take you out to dinner.
So to answer your original post, There are liabilities in all of these tunes so they need to get them right and get the waiver worded correctly with the layers.But, If you want to go a little faster now, you can...If you want to go alot faster soon...You can do that too...Patience is a vertue.
BTW, they are going to ban you for personal threats...so you may never see this post...and since it was mostly a shat talking post it should probably go in smack talk with a new title that reads "BIGMIKE32172 takes on all challengers"...at the same time. :thumb:
So to answer your original post, There are liabilities in all of these tunes so they need to get them right and get the waiver worded correctly with the layers.But, If you want to go a little faster now, you can...If you want to go alot faster soon...You can do that too...Patience is a vertue.
BTW, they are going to ban you for personal threats...so you may never see this post...and since it was mostly a shat talking post it should probably go in smack talk with a new title that reads "BIGMIKE32172 takes on all challengers"...at the same time. :thumb:
Yup, that's me. Thank you for posting an intelligent post. Me & the other mods over there, get rid of the **** talkers right away with a perma ban over the past several years.
Now your a Hell'sAngel too? Damn, how the hell do you manage to fit all this in? Wait don't tell me, next your gonna say you have a key to the Playboy Gratto? You got Hef on your speed dial?
No, you got me on the bench press, I haven't put up 600lbs, not even with a vest on. I doubt you know what that is, but nonetheless. Your also a Shaolin Master huh? So, your running with the Angels huh? You and Sonny are tight? That's a pretty big statement bud. I've been around bikers all my life. Real bikers, hard core, dirty, greasy, cranked out 1%'rs that would cut you from crotch to eyeball with a beer bottle if you pulled up to their clubhouse and on that custom bar hopper and started name dropping like your doing on here. So, let's recap:
Your a Viper Guru
Race Car builder/tuner
Powerlifter
Shaolin Master
Hell's Angel or affiliate
Millionaire
And last but not least....just a all around mean MoFo!!
Did I forget anything?
Just give up man....I got another 6 hours before I hit the gym so I can keep going all day with ya. Take your Fail and be quite.
You look a lil boated bud. You may wanna throw some Anastrozole in a .5mg a day or maybe some other type of anti-E. Too much slin maybe? You getting carb spillage PWO? You gotta watch that stuff Bigmike. Try pinning the slin pre-workout and lettin it spike while your still on the iron. Stay carb free for 2.5hrs after the PWO shake and I bet you'll have that puffy fat lil face down to normal in no time.
Ive always really liked Lee. I always felt like he got screwed everytime because of his height and the fact that he didn't kiss *** like all the others. He should have got the Olympia title atleast once back in his peak.
Lee & I are good friends & trained together for years. Youre right about him getting screwed on his shows. As usual in any sport, the sponsor with the most money that pays off the judges wins, or their client they sponsor!
One reason why I never competed, cuz it's all rigged. If not for being originally killed in my motorcycle accident back on 8/2/09, I was after the world record bench press set by Scott Mendelson @ 715lbs, which can be seen on youtube. He was approx. 330lbs when he did his 715lb bench, but I was only 265lbs when I did my 600lbs @ North Scottsdale Golds gym back in 2007 in front of dozens of people, only wearing my white tank top as in my pic I posted. I did mine with pure proper form, where you unrack it yourself, back flat on bench, touch your mid chest, and all the way out til your elbows lock. No assistance of any kind whatsoever.
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On another note, today's the day I pick up my 2011 tuxedo black on black leather Lariat Superduty, crew cab, diesel, 4x4, long bed. I've got faith that eventually before 2020 somebody will release a good tuner for both engine & trans!
If you guys want to argue with each other go somewhere else. I am really getting tired of the pissing matches.
You have both violated the CoC so let this serve as a warning that if it continues there will be penalties.
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