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Do you need a fuel additive?

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Just got done changing out another Bosch CP4.2 High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP). This one came out of a MY12 PSD. I asked the customer if he uses a fuel additive? He stated no because he was told that diesel engines are purpose built to run on the current fuel.

Thought I would share some observations... Use a lubricity fuel additive!!!!
If you have ever worked/rebuilt Bosch HPFP fuel pumps, they have the craziest piston bearing ever. The piston is basically a roller lifter, but, the roller is free floating in a cup rather than being pinned and spinning on an axis. The only thing that lubricates this bearing surface is the fuel.
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Obviously the above picture shows what happens when the bearing is not recieving enough lubrication and begins to stick and ultimately twist.
Below is a picture of a well taken care of piston showing the bearing surface that the roller/bearing rides on.

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Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD) is great for the environment but is hell on this bearing especially when buying cheaper fuels ie; no name brands.
Even the name brands don't do a very good job as far as lubricity, but do a great job concerning additives to increase EPA compliance ie; Cetane boost and Detergents as shown here> https://www3.epa.gov/otaq/fuels1/ffars/web-dies.htm#C Notice that the big oil/fuel suppliers/retailers have many more registered additives than the no name brands.

What brought this up was a buddy came by the shop and noticed the destroyed HPFP pump and worried that his may be going out. As a preventitive measure he asked that I change his out. He religiously uses a fuel additive. Pulled his HPFP and it looked brand new and I put back in his truck and saved him $500 on a new pump.

I highly recommend that diesel owners use at a minimum a lubricity fuel additive, even the gangbang brand. LOL
 
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During inspection it looked like the Volume Control Valve (VCV) picked up most if not all of the particulate matter. The rail and injectors were removed and inspected and looked good so we flushed the fuel system, buttoned her up and gave it a shot with fingers crossed. It fired right up with good fuel pressure and about 30 seconds of smoke. He has been driving it for the past three weeks without issues, I assume, since he hasn't come back.
 
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I use a paint measuring cup with a top to measure my additive. I have never used Rev-X before since Im a cheap SOB. :rofl:
 
#4 · (Edited)
Great write up based on experience instead of misinformation. Every time I see someone say that these trucks are made to run on today's fuel, I doubt they are even aware that most of today's fuel does not even meet the wear scar of less than 520 microns specified by the ASTM. Canadian fuel has a requirement of less than 460 microns for the same engines.
 
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I add it at every fill up at the pump. Think of it this way... Would you only have oil in your engine every other time you drove?
 
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I bought a 16oz bottle of Sta-Bil (perfect size bottle to fit in the rear driver’s side door pocket so that I pull up to the pump, open the door, and pull out the bottle) that has a tip and measure feature built in, dumped the Sta-Bil, and use just the bottle for my additives. Works great! Just wish someone sold empty bottles like this, but I tend to have stores of gas in the garage in case of hurricane, so I just use the stabil in there.

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I keep it in a milk crate in my tool box. I have a funnel and a paint measuring cup that I use for dosing. I always get fuel at half tank and add 8oz for 20 gal.
 
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I keep it at home and fill up empty water bottles I’ve dried out and take them to the pump with me each time I fill up, but mines not my DD so a fill up might be every other week or once a month depending on use but when I’m towing and we’re gonna for a long weeken I will take the jug and empty bottles with me or prefill bottles before the trip, I also run Diesel Kleen
 
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This is my method as well. I read a while back that leaving the additive in a water bottle for a duration will somehow leach something (can't remember what) from the bottle so I fill the bottle right before heading to the fuel station. Anyone else heard of the additive leaching something from a water bottle?
 
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I use Optilube XPD in every tank, ever since my HPFP went out at 150,000 miles. Optilube XPD has superior lubricity per independent tests. The links and copies of these tests are on Optilube’s website, as well as in another thread—where I initially learned about Optilube. I buy it a gallon at a time on Amazon for $70 delivered. Not cheap, but neither was a $10k replacement of my fuel system. I get better fuel mileage and performance with it, and the peace of mind that my pump is not going to grenade again. Optilube also sells a spout with a lid that mounts on the gallon container, which can be bought on their website or on amazon. It makes it easy for storing in my toolbox and squirting some in my tank at every fill up. I just guesstimate re the amount, and err on the side of more is better. I bet this HPFP will last 500k with this practice. But I’m an optimist 😉
 
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I've been using Opti-Lube Summer Plus since the truck was new. Almost the same lubricity as XPD but more cetane and no anti-gel and much cheaper per use. When I need anti-gel, I use Opti-Lube Winter. I carry a gallon jug of Summer Plus in the basement of my fiver for refilling the 16oz bottle in my passenger door pocket.
 
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What brought this up was a buddy came by the shop and noticed the destroyed HPFP pump and worried that his may be going out. As a preventitive measure he asked that I change his out. He religiously uses a fuel additive. Pulled his HPFP and it looked brand new and I put back in his truck and saved him $500 on a new pump.

What’s the going rate to pull and inspect a working pump?


I was using walmart 2 stroke in my 6.7, but noticed it started blowing a puff of black smoke at takeoff do I switched over to the motorcraft PM-22 stuff, and will be switching to DK soon.

I still have 2 gallons of the 2 stroke oil in the garage- I wonder if slipping less of it per tank (than I was- was 16oz per tank) would hurt anything.



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I never used an additive prior to my HPFP grenading at 150k. Expensive lesson. Interestingly, I had just deleted and tuned with H&M on tow tune within the last 15k miles, but my local shop didn’t think this had anything to do with it. I trust these guys, as they’re all ASE ex-Ford guys. It’s Burleson’s in Hernando, MS. They’re really good.

I don’t know what you mean by the PS, if it was directed at me, or what CPT is. I wasn’t quoting anybody or marketing for anybody if that’s what’s implied. I researched the lubricity issue after the grenading HPFP event, and came away convinced that Optilube products are superior. Once in a while if I run out and before my new order comes, I will put some Diesel Kleen or Howes in there, but I trust the Optilube based on the lubricity tests I read.
 
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Agreed. Dealerships are good for swapping in new parts, but not always so good at diagnostic or preventative measures.


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