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Metal shavings in oil filter

08 F-250 6.4L, 48.5K miles fully deleted, recently changed over to Rotella T6 5W40. Upon oil filter inspection I noticed some metal shavings (non-ferrous?) imbedded throughout the filter itself. Only found 1 piece of white rubbed down thin flake, and 1 piece of ferrous metal as seen below. Nothing stuck to the drain plug magnet itself. This is the 3rd oil change since I have owned the truck, but 1st oil filter inspected. Truck was deleted at 38K miles. Blackstone reports seem to give ok feedback and can be seen below. Second report was done after contents found in oil filter, I am questioning if this oil is too thin over traditional 15W40 for higher HP tuned trucks? local shop stated possibly oil pumps low or high pressure breakdown, or any other possible concerns y'all may have that might be going on? Thanks for your time, Jayson.
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I don't know but I will tell you the worse oil analysis I've ever had was the one time I tried T6 so I switched back to Motorcraft 15W40


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5/40 and 15/40 are both 40 weight. The first number is just the cold start weight. A thinner oil would be a10/30.

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Well as the old saying goes, Metal flake looks great in paint but not in Oil!

Honestly on a serious note I've always Used Rotella in all of my tractors, and 15w-40 in all of my trucks. I've always thought it is great stuff and it performs accordingly. I personally would just stick to 15w-40 unless Ford recommends something different for newer trucks. My 7.3 is very cold natured and I always manage to get it to start when its cold (I do have to let it warm up for a while or its to sluggish to drive, thinner oil would probably help that). I don't have a lot of experience with 6.4s but I would think that they would start much better because they are not HEUI and therefore thinner oil would not be as necessary at colder temps. Just my .02.



Edit: I reread the OP and I misread the question for my first reply. The metal flakes were found when you initially switched oil brands?

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^^^ I can't say exactly when or how long flakes have been present since this is the first filter inspected. Filter inspection will be a thing for the future as well as changing back to ford recommendations. Thanks

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I have run T6 since day 1 and never had issue with it. I look over the old filter but not with a fine tooth comb...guess I will have to look a little closer next time. Wish I could help ya but I am not sure what to think about what you found since your analysis is good. My first instinct would be you (or the previous owner got something in there during an oil change and the filter caught it cause surely if it was an indicator of an internal problem it would have shown up in the Blackstone. Also you would think if that had been in the pan it would have got ground up by all the moving parts. Is there anywhere you could send that debris to get it analyzed. IDK

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All my research was why I'm on my 2nd T6 fill up. grandpa's giving me chit over the weight.. I'll pull the filter in a 1k or so & see as well as ongoing analysis. Thanks again all, Jayson.

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All my research was why I'm on my 2nd T6 fill up. grandpa's giving me chit over the weight.. I'll pull the filter in a 1k or so & see as well as ongoing analysis. Thanks again all, Jayson.
So what did your research say. I am definitely watching this closely. I always thought I was doing my truck a favor by using it, but maybe that ain't right.

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I just changed my oil friday for the second time running T6. i looked at the filter and didnt see anything but im just gonna keep running t6. all the other trucks love it so i dont see why the 6.4 wouldnt. hope you get it figured out

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What does Ford actually recommend for the 6.4?

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