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Old 03-28-2014, 07:49 AM
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Turbo delete

Just saw this on another forum, Someone is suggesting removal of the turbo for performance. Can someone speak to this. I'm confused. Thanks
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:30 AM
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that doesn't make any kind of sense to me.
I was riding in my old man's 7.3 one day when the turbo inlet pipe blew open at the boot.
Lost basically all power, didn't accelerate worth a damn.
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:31 AM
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if you remove forced induction from an engine it basically becomes a naturally aspirated engine.
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:35 AM
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Whoever was saying that could not have been serious.
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impossible.... for performance? how?

forced induction is, in effect, a displacement modifier.. if your engine is 6.4L displaced mechanically, it is likely nearing 6.0L dynamic displacement (considering valve events)... when you spool up to an increased atmosphere of 14.7psi, you've crammed twice the amount of air it displaces naturally- or 12.8L mechanical, 12.0L dynamic... you're, at that point, operating an engine precisely twice the size of the naturally aspirated engine...

twice the amount of air means twice the amount of fuel (taking for granted the a:f ratio doesn't alter).. more fuel burning with the proper amount of air present makes for a more eruptive burn... less air allows for a hotter burn, but not necessarily a more expansive (as in violent) burn.. the air is absolutely key- without it, you're igniting a very hot fire that has nothing to expand but itself- which it will, but with not near the force it does WITH air properly proportioned with it..

boost is where it's at.. there is no other way, short of mechanically interjecting 'variable cylinder/displacement', to make a better economy/performance engine.. the 'variable displacement' leaves a LOT to be desired while compared to boost (either s/c or turbo- hell, even nitro)...

Ferrari is on to something.. they have a variable compound angle on a camshaft.. imagine looking at a camshaft at eye level, from one end to the next.. the lobes have angles ground into them.. there is a tiny motor on the engine that pushes the cam shaft forward or aft, which initiates another valve train- which makes lift/duration alter on existing cylinders as well as possibly activating cylinders not in use until demanded... it's a very clever gadget- but it still doesn't allow for 'on demand displacement expansion' like boost does, and has been doing for many decades....

there is no way under the sun you remove boost from an engine for performance gains.. it just doesn't happen.. especially with oil squeezers, that spool up slow anyway..
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Old 03-28-2014, 10:33 AM
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Whoever was saying that could not have been serious.
Thats what I thought!!! Have a good weekend folks.
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did you ask how to make your truck smoke more? turbo delete mod is a sarcastic term alot of people reply with if someone asks how to make their truck smoke. along with plastic bag over air filter.....etc. just thinking out loud here on why someone would say that lol
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:10 PM
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Like Travis said, it's probably because someone said they wanted more power and to be able to 'roll coal'... So someone sarcastically said delete the turbo. Rolling coal is rather frowned upon in the diesel community now.


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