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post #1 of 18 Old 11-08-2013, 07:14 PM Thread Starter
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Bio-diesel.. Little confused.

I see under Ford maintenance that if you are using 5% bio-diesel you need to change your maintenance schedule to the one with lower miles to change filters and oil. So this seems bio-diesel is bad for trucks.

Also I see bio-diesel at 20% at the gas pump in CO area, which seems Ford recommend not to use or avoid as much as possible

but doesn't bio have a higher cetane rating?
http://www.biodiesel.org/reports/19960901_gen-187.pdf
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I run 100% biodiesel, but I have a 2000 7.3L. My Blackstone reports come back saying to go up to a 7500 mile oil change instead of 5000. I use Rotella T 15w-40 , the oil isn't thick ,sooty black like a diesel fueled truck.It still has a transparent look to it. Biodiesel is the best additive at 5% to give back the lubricity that the ULSD doesn't have. In my opinion, biodiesel is better for the engine and the regular oil changes are sufficient. Send in a sample to Blackstone and see what they say, bottom line this truck is your baby, so you make the call.

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I'll tell ya bio diesel is great...we love it, it keeps our pump shop hummin with business. Truth of the matter is bio contains more water than regular number 2 along with carrying double the contaminets. You think bio is good? Here's some food for thought, the OEM's tell you to change your filters TWICE as often while running it ( even though OEM's don't filter close to what Bosch or Siemens recommends) Argue all you want, and run bio...it keeps fuel shops like us in business.

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this here is a 6.4 ste.

disregard [take no notice] info regarding fuel from owners of 7.3's and 6.0's.

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Disregard info from me because I drive a 6.0? Just because I don't drive a 6.4 or the new 6.7 must mean I don't know anything about them right? Information is information, It's up to the individual on how they use it. I see destroyed fuel injection systems from bio a few times a week be it Powerstroke, Cummins, Duramax, Cat, Isuzu etc... It effects all of them the same way. Sure some people run it without any issues for awhile, others get a lesson a little faster. It's up to you guys what you decide to run in your truck. I wouldn't put bio in a diesel powered trash can.

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Take it easy, friz... I don't think he was talking to you..

I'll run #1 in the winter in no more than a 90/10 split with #2ulsd.. I rely on additives for upping cetane and lubricity.
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[QUOTE=drewactual;7158890]Take it easy, friz... I don't think he was talking to you..


Well then he must be talking to me ............ This is my opinion , this is what I run in my 2000 F250 7.3L . I have no issues with running biodiesel up to 100% through the warm months and a blend in the colder months. I offer my opinion on many topics , even if I don't drive that particular truck . If you don't like what I say or my point of view then disregard it , but don't come on hear and tell others that my opinions don't count because I don't drive a 6.4L.
You have no idea who I am or what I know about a 6.4L or any other truck. This forum is successful because people have answers , they might not be 100% right but they are trying to help somebody.
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Take it easy yourself, greasy... Dang... Your 7.3 isn't pumping fuel at 25k+ psi, and through piozzi injectors... Common rail, piazzo injectors, high pressure, and one wad of debris could wreck the fuel systems... Your 7.3 is a friggin bullet proof rig that'll run about anything.. the 6.4 nd 6.7 simply can't take that risk..
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I ran 20% bio (that is what the pump said in New Mexico) and my EGT were higher but it seemed I had more power based on my CTS edge watching throttle position.

So higher hp but also higher EGT at the same time.
That is why I'm so confused about this stuff.

Higher EGT = better burn?

I replaced all my fuel filters at 10k so maybe running bio is not that bad, but someone budget minded (making a living off a 6.4) it might not be a good idea.

I always heard lower the EGT the better mpg...

Lof course I'm nearing the 7.3 world as my EGR and DPF are non but maybe in stock 6.4 it might not be a god idea.

Of course there's the wear on these dang HPFP..
Also I run a full bottle of ford cetane each fill up in hopes my HPFP will last.

His needs to be a round table discussion.
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Lower egts mean the engine is less loaded, or working less hard, and is something to an equiv to a high vacuum signal in a gasser..

The high egts you saw tells me your engine is working harder, and your economy is down. Given, you're doing the same job with both fuels, and comparing apples to apples..
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