on road and off road diesel

[2008ford6.4TT]

thanks guys , just tossin up the idea with fuel prices now a days. thanks to our lovely government. hey metro7100 so you say u have run it in the 08 6.4 then? have any problems? and it is just the dye that is different? thats what i figured.

thank again everyone

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Last edited by 2008ford6.4TT : 01-29-2008 at 12:12 PM.

[metro7100]

I havent run it in my 6.4 but know of about 10 mine trucks that are running it. My buddy ownes a Fabrication shop in town and builds cages for their trucks, they tow them in to his shop and tow them out. I help him now and then and we were checking them out, when I asked them about it they said they order the normal ULSD with the dye in it. They never drive them on the road and dont have to pay the road taxes, saves them over a $1.00 per gallon.

[TwinTurboFX4]

We have a new 6.4 at my fire station. It runs off-road fuel in it and it goes in regen alot. About 5-6 times a tank full. The truck is a F-250 CC 4x4 auto w/camper shell and it averages 7 mpg. I have told them to get a gas card and buy fuel somewhere else (we have our own fuel station, only no-lead and off-road) for that truck. The money saved would be worth buying elsewhere.

[DavidPhillips]

LSD could be around until 2010.

It's probably impossible to find in some areas, but some offroad diesel could be LSD. This will probably cause a lot of unwanted problems with the 6.4. It was rumored that red dye would cause problems with some diesel engines due to an optical sensor in the rotary injection pump. This was not true. There has been some talk of a special sensor that would disable the vehicle if red dye was detected. ???

The price where I'm at now is $3 for red diesel. It would take a lot of tank fulls in your PSD to make up the $10,000 fine. If you can't afford to pay it you will probably have the truck confiscated.

Then again if someone is using red diesel on the road they are a thief. I guess they could just rob someone to get the $10,000.

Financially it makes no sense. If you figure 10% savings and only getting caught one time. You would need to use $100,000 in fuel to break even.

It's not like you see off road diesel at every service station. Someone would be crazy to pull up and fill there truck with red diesel.
It's highly likely that someone may be stealing the diesel to start with. That way your looking at free diesel vs saving 10%.

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Last edited by DavidPhillips : 02-02-2008 at 12:13 PM.

[metro7100]

David
I have to say I agree with you, no more than you are saving and the hassle with finding it would out weigh the benefit to me. I don't know of anyone around here that sells it other than in bulk. The fines around here are also HUGE. The vehicles that are using it do it legally, they pay over $100.00 each way to tow them to get work done on them, just so they dont drive them on the road (in the mine they never see road, just dirt).

[TwinTurboFX4]

One more note...even if you use red diesel for just one tankfull, it can be detected for a long time. It dyes everything your fuel comes in contact with.