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New (to me) 6.4 for a newbie.

Howdy, all!

I've been lurking here for a bit doing research, and yesterday bought a clean 2010 6.4 lariat cc 4x4.

I have read numerous threads a out egr & dpf deletes, exhaust, tuners, etc. I am planning on modding this truck, but I am really only interested in: 1. Long term reliability, and 2. Mpg improvements ( a distant second I might add).

Here's my question: I am apprehensive about doing the physical changes on the exhaust. Is there a benefit to just doing the programer mods (dpf delete as I understand it) but leaving egr intact, or do I have to do the egr to see any benefit?

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Deleting the dpf will gain you the most benefit. Deleting the egr and cooler isn't absolutely necessary but will aid in prolonging the life of the truck. You will at minimum need to remove the cat and dpf and replace it with a delete pipe.

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New (to me) 6.4 for a newbie.

Ok, so I think I had it backwards in my mind.

This sight is so full of good info! Thanks!


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Ok, so I think I had it backwards in my mind.

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No problem. If you check out the "general modification" stickie at the top of the general discussion page you'll find a ton of great info in that discussion

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KMC XD WHEELS W/NITTO TRAIL GRAPPLERS
2.5" LEVELING KIT
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5" DP BACK FLO-PRO EXHAUST
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CCV MOD
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If you take out the cat and dpf won't it fail the annual emissions test?
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New (to me) 6.4 for a newbie.

I was concerned about that as well


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If you take out the cat and dpf won't it fail the annual emissions test?
Yes but not every state has emissions. I live in Missouri and trucks over 9,000 lbs GVW are exempt. For states that require... most guys just put truck back to stock tuning and exhaust prior to taking in to have emissions check done. Keep your stock exhaust when you remove it so you can swop it back out...
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New (to me) 6.4 for a newbie.

Ok, I got a quote for the following: S&B cai, egr delete, 4" exhaust, H&S Minimax, professionally installed for $3,100.

Any input on this setup/pricing?


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Seems pretty high to me... $1500 into the tuner/intake and exhaust, and none of those require much headache to install...

Not sure how much is involved for EGR as I have not gone down that road...yet
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Seems pretty high to me... $1500 into the tuner/intake and exhaust, and none of those require much headache to install...

Not sure how much is involved for EGR as I have not gone down that road...yet
The tuner, exhaust and air intake are an easy in the driveway install in a couple hours. I would do them first. You should be able to do them for around $1,500 - $1,600.

The EGR is a very fun 6 -7 hour job. You can do it with normal hand tools in the driveway as well. You can get all the items needed and the kit for around $400.

If you are able to do normal maintenance items you should be able to complete all this yourself and save the installation charges.

The CCV mod is also a good idea at the same time.

Keep in mind the shop has to make money and they normally have an $85 - $100 an hour labor rate.

Do some research here on the site. There are a lot of great step by step write ups on each of the upgrade items listed. They have been a great help to me with my work in progress.

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