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2009 6.4 wont start

just looking for some help i have a 2009 6.4 f350 i bought that needed an engine ive had 7.3 and 6.0l and have done everything to them anyways long story short installed a new long block and now cant get it to start i have bleed the low pressure fuel system cant get anymore air out cracked the high pressure lines while cranking cant see any more air there either the truck fires almost like its going to start just wont, no codes triple checked everything i have hours and hours into cranking and bleeding anyone have any ideas?
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Where did your long block come from?

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So you have fuel in the upper bowl? All wires are hooked up? Is the starter rolling over and it's just not firing? Does it begin to start but just not continue? What kind of sound is it making? Slow? Normal? (Combustion events)

Smoke? We need as many details as possible.

Also, I'd call the guys up in Alberta and ask them about what could possibly be wrong.


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Did you use the special tool to bleed at the fuel cooler? I forget the part number from Ford...

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i will be as detailed as possible, theres fuel everywhere fuel filter housings are full, as well as the fuel cooler i watched a video online and mad my own bleed tools hooked them up and waited for all the air bubbles to finish, when u crank the engine over it spins good according to the tach on the dash its probably rotating at 250-300 rpm off the starter, the engine is firing it sounds like it needs two more rpm and its going to go, i hvae checked every plug on the engine i can find there are no codes in the computer i have a small reader it does not do detail info, i did an amp draw test and its drawing 120 amps as soon as you turn the key on which maks me believe the 8 glow plugs are drawing about 15 amps each everything seems to cycle correctly on the dash, i havent noticed smoke coming out of the tail pipe i did remove the air filter and after trying to start it with the air filter removed theres smoke coming out of there, according to the engine guys they think theres an air lock, when i first tryed to get it going even though i bleed the system it did not fire the more i cycled and tryed to bleed and crank over all of a sudden it started firing, this makes me believe it could be air locked but i have blead and cycled and cranked for hours last time i blead no air bubbles and almost ran, i even have the block heater plugged in
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Your reader probably isn't picking up all the codes there. You need the Ford IDS software, or Auto Enginuity, my XRT-PRO even misses some ford codes...your flying blind without the ability to see what's really going on...and something isn't right, find someone with AE (updated CAN Ford version) or the Ford IDS... That will tell you the issue...or lead you to it through codes and streaming PID's...like fuel trims, you probably need them reset, you ecu is still set up for your old motor I would assume...

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06 VW Jetta TDI- all options, 100k, stock for now...catching up on maintenance...
04 Triumph Thruxton, cr special carbs, TPUSA cams, MAS side-covers, Lossa stubby exhaust, pingel petc*ck, etc...

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Spend $100 at the dealer and have them figure it out, then you can fix it...it will save you loads of time!

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its on the trailer now i just live in a small town out of the way so the closest dealers an hour and a half away. thanks for your help though i just thought it was strange that it ran fine took apart put back together now it wont run?
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Not a problem, please fill us in when you figure out the issue or what was going on...good luck!

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