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*F350 with Wide Track Front End*

Hey guys,

Need to ask a question to the more knowledgeable powerstroke guys. I have an 08 f350 with the 450 wide track front end on 17" wheels. The truck came with 4.30 gears, but I've noticed that its just to low of a gear for what I pull (2 Horse Trailer). Now with that being said does my truck have the same rear end as an f450? Or am I the same as a 350? I'd really like to go down to 3.73's to help with highway mileage.

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450's use a dana 110 and DRW 350's use a dana 80. The easiest way to tell which rear end you have is to look and see if it has a removable aluminum rear diff cover or not. If it does, its a dana 80 if it doesn't , its a dana 110.

I've never heard of a " 450 wide track front end" option. Both the 350 and 450 use a dana 60 front. The difference between the two are the brakes and hubs. What does the " 450 wide track front end" have different from a regular DRW 350??
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^ He's right on about the diffs.
Ive heard of and seen them, but cant say exactly what the differences are, other than its wider.

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450's use a dana 110 and DRW 350's use a dana 80. The easiest way to tell which rear end you have is to look and see if it has a removable aluminum rear diff cover or not. If it does, its a dana 80 if it doesn't , its a dana 110.
Great! If memory serves me right I remember seeing an aluminum rear diff cover. I'm out in the field right now, so I can't check.

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I've never heard of a " 450 wide track front end" option. Both the 350 and 450 use a dana 60 front. The difference between the two are the brakes and hubs. What does the " 450 wide track front end" have different from a regular DRW 350??
It's hard to explain, but they seem to be called "Fatboys" I did a little research on em and heres the article I found. Oh and BTW the truck in the article is identical to mine. .

"FATBOY"
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The wide track front end came with the f450 fender flares on an f350. It was an option for the 08 and up trucks. The front end is called a super 60 if memory serves me correctly. Axle tube and axle length are longer I think.

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450's use a dana 110 and DRW 350's use a dana 80. The easiest way to tell which rear end you have is to look and see if it has a removable aluminum rear diff cover or not. If it does, its a dana 80 if it doesn't , its a dana 110.

I've never heard of a " 450 wide track front end" option. Both the 350 and 450 use a dana 60 front. The difference between the two are the brakes and hubs. What does the " 450 wide track front end" have different from a regular DRW 350??
Dana 110 is a Square tube axle and the 80 is a round tube axle.

110 is very simular to the Ford 9 inch as to access the gearing you remove the Pinion/ring /diff as a module from the front.

Dana 80 or Ford Sterling is a rear cover

Dana 110 are only on F450/550 trucks.
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The wide track front end came with the f450 fender flares on an f350. It was an option for the 08 and up trucks. The front end is called a super 60 if memory serves me correctly. Axle tube and axle length are longer I think.

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I thought starting way back (not sure on year) they are all Dana super 60's f 250 f 350even later f 450 thats the balljoint instead of kingpin ford speced Dana axles???

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Dana Super 60

The Dana Super 60 is an upgraded version of the Dana 60 front axle.

Differences in the Dana Super 60 versus the regular Dana 60:

Larger and thicker diameter steel tubes (3.75 inches diameter and 1/2 in thick)

Larger ring and pinion which increase the contact area and overall strength.

Larger Universal Joints which increase strength and steering angle.

Super 60s use 1550 Universal Joints.

Net formed spider gears for increased strength.

All made with 35 Spline axle shafts.

This axle was used only as a medium duty unit until the Third Generation F-450 Pick up began production. The Third Generation F-450 pick up is a light duty truck. This axle is still used in the medium duty F-450 and F-550 4x4 trucks as well.

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2005 up they are all super 60's

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The Model 60 front axle was replaced by the Dana-Spicer Super 60 for the 2005 model year. If you need parts for your 2005-2010 F-250 and F-350 Ford Super DutyŽ front axle see our 2005-2010 F-250 and F-350 front axle web page.
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Dang-it, yet another cool option my supposed "fully loaded" King Ranch doesn't have. Oh-well.
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I know I kinda like it I like the fender and flare size that would accomodate a bigger tire without the need for a big lift
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