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post #1 of 21 Old 07-22-2011, 08:58 PM Thread Starter
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ford policy on engine oil cooler?

what is their policy on replacing it? is it under warranty?

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I can definitely see why you'd be on the hook for this. With a tuner and delete, they can pin the oil cooler failing on the modification of adding extra HP and torque outside of Ford's stock/engineered parameters. After all, the harder the engine works, the more lubricity it needs and more oil going through the stock cooler can probably kill it pretty quick on those higher tunes. The dealerships around here are not very mod friendly and if something fails as a direct or indirect cause of a modification, you're paying. Maybe, you have a more mod friendly dealership or can talk them into performing warranty works. The worst they can say is no, you're paying. Doesn't hurt to ask... Good luck with the fix.

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well what i would do is change it all back to stock and then take it in, from what i hear is that the spartan is undetectable by ford...i wouldnt think theyd be able to pin it on the lift or any of that

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For warranty work, I'd assume that the dealership will be as thorough as possible in doing it as they directly bill Ford for time and material. Therefore, the dealership will probably hook your truck up to their diagnostic equipment and see traces of a tuner.

Spartan's website says:
"Ford Motor Company has special algorithms in place within the factory computers to detect the download of a program from a non-Ford programming device; which triggers the diagnostic troublecode "P167F", defined as "Non-OEM programming detected." This code is only viewable with Ford dealer or Ford Engineering diagnostic equipment, and will
not be read or cleared by any other tuning device or diagnostic code reader on the market. This code is also stored in multiple computer modules scattered about the vehicle, meaning that "clearing" or resetting the engine controller alone will not force the code to go away."

Like I said before, don't be surprised if they won't perform the work for you at Ford's expense. Dealerships and the auto industry aren't stupid and they know what's available in the aftermarket. All the Big Three are the same. They can all trace programmers.

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I just had my oil cooler replaced under warranty less than 3 months ago with no questions from Ford. Under my hood looked like a volcano went off when the coolant bottle filed up with oil. It was a hug mess, but was covered and would have cost me around 3,000 out of my pocket. Oil cooler failing has nothing to do with the engine being tuned. Ford cast the cooler using sand and if they don't get it all out it will eventuality plug up.

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ok so from the answers i got from other forums i found that my thermostats are probably out of date and sticking...and my oil cooler needs to be flushed. it has not exploded so i dont think that it has failed or needs to be replaced. even if they void warranty i have an aftermarket warranty.

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I would watch your oil temp real close. Mine started running between 213-216 empty and it wasn't but a couple of days later and I looked down at my mini maxx and the oil temp was 265. I pulled off the side of the road smoke started rolling out and it sounded like a volcano under the hood. Mind you that I never got a check engine light and Ford stock gauges don't show oil temp and water temp was right in the middle. If it hadn't been for my mini maxx gauges I could have driven a lot farther and possibly done damage to the motor.

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ok, ill take it to get it flushed on monday, ill also get the t-stats changed, im actually thinking of taking off the tuner and going back to stock so i dont have to deal with anything based off of tuning or nonstock operation so it all remains under warranty, i dont really need the extra power, i dont race so idk...maybe ill run the stock no dpf so it is all stock power without the dpf

im also going to get some direct gauges since the dash daq could be getting faulty info from a broken sensor or anything like that.

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For warranty work, I'd assume that the dealership will be as thorough as possible in doing it as they directly bill Ford for time and material. Therefore, the dealership will probably hook your truck up to their diagnostic equipment and see traces of a tuner.

Spartan's website says:
"Ford Motor Company has special algorithms in place within the factory computers to detect the download of a program from a non-Ford programming device; which triggers the diagnostic troublecode "P167F", defined as "Non-OEM programming detected." This code is only viewable with Ford dealer or Ford Engineering diagnostic equipment, and will
not be read or cleared by any other tuning device or diagnostic code reader on the market. This code is also stored in multiple computer modules scattered about the vehicle, meaning that "clearing" or resetting the engine controller alone will not force the code to go away."

Like I said before, don't be surprised if they won't perform the work for you at Ford's expense. Dealerships and the auto industry aren't stupid and they know what's available in the aftermarket. All the Big Three are the same. They can all trace programmers.
B.S. the tech working on your rig isnt looking that deep..


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that is what i figured because there are sooooooo many people onhere that take their trucks back to stock and take them in for work

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