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post #1 of 14 Old 01-02-2011, 05:08 PM Thread Starter
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BIO DIESEL QUESTION

Hey guys I have a 08 job 1 crew 4x4 with the spartan tune up to 250 mbrp exhust s b filter. I have never run the bio diesel in it. My friend has been making it since 06 and runs it in his 7.3 and his 05 duramax. We live in upstate ny so its cold in the winter here. My question is if I run it do I have to do anything different to my filters or truck anything will it hurt my injectors etc. and would it help my milage any.
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Biodiesel doesn't react to anti-gel additives like regular diesel does (they just weren't designed for bio, and bio chemical makup isn't consistant from tank to tank so engineering an effective anti-gel for it would be difficult at best). I wouldn't even consider running it until it warms up a bit. Also there is an alternative fuel section on this forum that talks about this stuff.
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if you decide to run it go ahead and buy some extra filters and keep them and the tools required to change them in your truck.biofuel will clean your system thus clogging your filters,so just be ready for it.youre not running the dpf anymore so i dont see a problem with it.but if i was you i would start out mixing before going straight bio.it may or may not change your mpg depending on the quality of his fuel,but it will change the price of a fillup depending on what he sells it to you for.like above stated,there is plenty of info in the alternate fuel section of the org.do your research before you venture into this

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Thanks for the info guys I think I will wait till it warms up a little.
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My friend is the parts guy for the Boulder County, Co truck fleet. The country recently switched to bio-diesel for their fleet of 22 snow plows and dump trucks. They have had nothing but problems since doing so. He said he would never, ever run bio-diesel in his own truck as it has cost the county almost $100,000 in repair bills since they did it

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I wouldn't run anything but diesel in something that has a commonrail injection system. The injectors aren't like 7.3 injectors. They run at a very very high pressure (over 20k). The old strokers seem to run pretty decent on different fuels. We've run 7.3's on a mix of tranmission fluid and oil with half and half diesel and seen an improvement in fuel mileage by about 2mpg's. You can't run it in the cold, and I wouldn't run it in a 6.0. I would definitely not run it in anything with commonrail injection like a 6.4, a new cummins, etc.
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wanna explain why not?

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I wouldn't run anything but diesel in something that has a commonrail injection system. The injectors aren't like 7.3 injectors. They run at a very very high pressure (over 20k). The old strokers seem to run pretty decent on different fuels. We've run 7.3's on a mix of tranmission fluid and oil with half and half diesel and seen an improvement in fuel mileage by about 2mpg's. You can't run it in the cold, and I wouldn't run it in a 6.0. I would definitely not run it in anything with commonrail injection like a 6.4, a new cummins, etc.
I've heard the same thing honestly, its not so much the fuel filters that you have to worry about, its the injectors. However, Patrick may have a point with the fact there is no longer regen or the DPF.........OP you make want to contact a member that goes by Clay Henry, he is all into bio and veggie conversions and is in the middle of trying to convert his 6.4 over, hope that helps

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Well my biggest explanation would be that I had an 06 common rail cummins that I had an injector stick open with because of running alternative fuels. With that kind of pressure if an injector sticks open it cuts a hole in the piston, superheats the cylinder, drops the seats out of the head and blows the exhaust valve out through the turbo along with the seat. It scores the cylinder, and mashes the head to pieces. That's my 5000.00 explanation. I saved more than that amount on fuel, but I had to put a motor in a 40000 mile truck that I bought brand new. Also in the cold it gels more quickly. And in a 6.0 it puts the truck into limp mode. Any more explanation needed?
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are you sure it stuck open because of alternative fuel?it could have had debree in the fuel or something along those lines that made it stuck open.

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