08' F-350 Vs. 05 Lbz Duramax

[FINISHLINE RACING]

Well I got my first chance to drive one of the new 08' F-250, and let me tell you that thing is nice. The seat are 10x more comfortable than before. The interior is very nice and the truck seems to ride a lot better than the old body style. Maybe it just seemed that way because it was new who knows.

Well the one I drove was a friend of mines who had just gotten it 2 days ago. It was a F-350 4x4, long wheel base, single rear wheel (not duelly), Lariat. We didn't have the old body style Ford to compare it to but we did have a 2005 Chevrolet Duramax 4x4 with 33x12.50x20 Toyo MT's that is a friend of mines to compare it to. Now this duramax is bone stock the only aftermarket things it has are the wheels and tires which I would have thought would have hurt the truck when we went to race them on the street.

We pulled up to the red light and I was driving the Ford, we both spooled the trucks up and took off and my buddy's Duramax left me like I was still in PARK. He easily put 4-5 truck lengths on me from the red light to about 50 mph. Then we decided to race the trucks from about 50 mph on. I decided to jump and try and leave early and get a head start, well that didn't help at all, the durmax just motored on past me. Man it was embarrassing. The only thing that is bothering me right now about the new Ford is the rumors of quite a few engine failures and the horrible fuel mileage my friend has been getting in his new Powerstroke. He told me (granted didn't reset the mileage inside the truck and didn't check it when he filled up the first time) on the way home from Texas on the interstate he was only getting 11.9 mpg. Hopefully, it is just that he hasnt reset it and that is just what it is showing.

All in all though, I would rather the new FORD. I have always been a big CHEVROLET fan until last night. The new Super Duty are a very nice truck. And I wouldn't mind at all sacrificing a little on the speed to have the comfort and style of the 08' POWERSTROKE. I guess we will soon see how the new DURAMAX runs with all the EPA stuff on it. I know someone who already has one ordered, so I guess I we will have to see how it performs compared to the new Ford.

Just thought I would post this information for a few of you who were interested in the new Powerstroke and how well it performs and how nice it is. I am very jealous of my buddy and his new truck. Very nice.

[99Smokin73Stroker]

Well the one I drove was a friend of mines who had just gotten it 2 days ago. It was a F-350 4x4, long wheel base, single rear wheel (not duelly), Lariat. We didn't have the old body style Ford to compare it to but we did have a 2005 Chevrolet Duramax 4x4 with 33x12.50x20 Toyo MT's that is a friend of mines to compare it to. Now this duramax is bone stock the only aftermarket things it has are the wheels and tires which I would have thought would have hurt the truck when we went to race them on the street.

33's aren't a whole lot larger than stock on any truck these days, so the loss would not be near as much as you would think.

We pulled up to the red light and I was driving the Ford, we both spooled the trucks up and took off and my buddy's Duramax left me like I was still in PARK. He easily put 4-5 truck lengths on me from the red light to about 50 mph. Then we decided to race the trucks from about 50 mph on. I decided to jump and try and leave early and get a head start, well that didn't help at all, the durmax just motored on past me. Man it was embarrassing. The only thing that is bothering me right now about the new Ford is the rumors of quite a few engine failures and the horrible fuel mileage my friend has been getting in his new Powerstroke. He told me (granted didn't reset the mileage inside the truck and didn't check it when he filled up the first time) on the way home from Texas on the interstate he was only getting 11.9 mpg. Hopefully, it is just that he hasnt reset it and that is just what it is showing

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That's not the first i've heard of surprisingly slower performance. I think Maintain said he saw a new one run a 16-something at the track. That is disappointing, I was expecting low 15's at least. Another said that it didn't feel any faster than a new 6.0.

I guess we will soon see how the new DURAMAX runs with all the EPA stuff on it.

I don't see why people keep saying that about the Duramax. It has the same emissions stuff that's on the 6.4 and the 6.7 Cummins. I don't think that it's going to hurt the performance of the Duramax at all. Also did your friend put an 06 lbz engine into an 05? All the 05 Duramax engines were LLY.

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Last edited by 99Smokin73Stroker : 03-11-2007 at 10:13 PM.

[FINISHLINE RACING]

No he didn't put a 06' motor in an 05' truck. Maybe it is an 06', I just know it is an LBZ because we looked on the engine information and he bought it in early 05' so I just assumed it was an 05'.

[TYREBOYS_DEMAXIN]

sad thing this isn't the first complaint i heard from the 6.4L PSD drivers,a custormer of mine his uncle just bought a 6.4L PSD and had a little over a 1000 miles on the odometer when the engine failed so the dealer gave him another 6.4L to drive and with less the 400 miles he had another engine failure so the dealer gave him the third truck to drive and so far so good with a little over 600miles on the odometer..i'm not a ford guy but this is not good for ford,and i was hoping it would turn out better for ford..just a thought i would let you guys know..engine failure=blown engine

[Marty]

A 6.4L F250 set up comparably to mine (crew cab short bed) ran a 16.8 in 2wd spinning for 60' and then in 4wd ran a 16.3. That LBZ isn't subjected to the EPA crap the 6.4 has to deal with. A stock LBZ runs low 15's all day.

Hope this 6.4 problems are just a rumor or isolated incidents.

[99Smokin73Stroker]

Originally Posted by FINISHLINE RACING

No he didn't put a 06' motor in an 05' truck. Maybe it is an 06', I just know it is an LBZ because we looked on the engine information and he bought it in early 05' so I just assumed it was an 05'.

It was probably one of the first 06's to hit the lot.

True the LBZ isn't subject to the emissions stuff the 6.4 is, but I still think it should be a lot faster than what i've heard it is, emissions or not. It's rated for very similar #'s as the Duramax, even though it outweighs it I just expected quicker...

[straycat]

I was under the impression that the 08 was fair quick compared to the 6.0, but Who knows, once it has some miles on it, it may loosen up and get a little quicker. And as far as the fuel mileage is concerned, the indicator in the truck has only had 2 days to average the mileage on it, and should steadily go up over the next while.

Gord.

[Patrick]

Welcome to the site!!!!

[99Smokin73Stroker]

Well like anything some time will tell. Give it til later in the summer.

[720Deere]

Originally Posted by straycat

but Who knows, once it has some miles on it, it may loosen up and get a little quicker.

If the 6.4 is anything like my 6.0, it won't "loosen up". I need to get the latest flash, but at just over 12,000 miles I feel it has less power than it did when new. I have heard numerous people who got reflashed say that they initially had more power than before, but it fades with time.


It may be that we just get more used to the power and it seems to be less, but I'm judging mine on performance in a measured distance.