Updating to a job 2+ trans filtration setup

[Dusten]

Okay, here are the pictures.
My job 1 truck with the internal filter. The pan(no, its not leaking, i had already drained the pan and hadn't cleaned it yet)


Pan off, you can clearly see filter media in the filter


replacement filter



and here is where the filter mounts.(be careful, the little orange o-ring on the end of the filter tube got stuck in there and i had to pick it out.)



So, if anyone with an external filter can compare the two filter attachment locations, it'd be nice

[grumpygregg]

just out of curiosity if one was to add a internal filter,bigger pan and left the external filter in place as a secondary filter would that hurt anything? You would have a insurance filter that could catch stuff that might slip by the internal filter and keep the lines and cooler cleaner.The external filter would only need changing every second oil change if the internal filter is doing its job. What are your thoughts on this?

[ZeroOne]

Dusten, thank you for posting the photos. As you mention, you can easily see the paper filter media through that window. Funny that they still label it as "screen" on the packaging, when they've combined the screen and filter into one unit.

I don't have any photos of mine, but here is a link to the FT144 filter that early builds use in combination with the external bellhousing canister. You can see that it has the same tube as yours, but the body of the unit itself is rounded instead of squared, and has no seams along the sides, showing that nothing was sealed up inside of it (paper media).

Motorcraft Transmission Filter FT 144

Originally Posted by grumpygregg

just out of curiosity if one was to add a internal filter,bigger pan and left the external filter in place as a secondary filter would that hurt anything? You would have a insurance filter that could catch stuff that might slip by the internal filter and keep the lines and cooler cleaner.The external filter would only need changing every second oil change if the internal filter is doing its job. What are your thoughts on this?

I'm debating that one as well. I'm worried that leaving the external bellhousing one in place will add that much more restriction to the pump. It would be nice to cut the lines and splice in some blank tubes.

[grumpygregg]

but if external filter filters only 20% of the oil going through the trans then I cant see it adding any more restiction than the internal which filters 100% of the oil The internal sucks the oil up were as the external is under pressure from the pump. If the external gets plugged, what happens to the tranny? does it stop working or does the oil just bypass the filter? Just more food for thought

[SANDSAILOR]

Originally Posted by Dusten

here is my explanation... i'm not retarded.
That pic you posted looks exactly like the filter i pulled out of my truck, except mine has a filter media in it, i'll post pics when i get home

capacity of trans pan with internal filter

Not saying you are, you just never know what other people do thats all. And in that picture I can see the media, that looks nothing like mine so I guess they combined them. Now it makes sense to me about the filter and pan. I was thinking you were buying the toilet paper roll looking filter and a pan, I could figure out how you were going to do that with out the internal mount for it. I had no idea there is yet a 3rd type of filter for these transmissions. Whats the part number on that pan and what did it cost?

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Last edited by SANDSAILOR : 10-30-2009 at 12:44 PM.

[Dusten]

Originally Posted by SANDSAILOR

Not saying you are, you just never know what other people do thats all. And in that picture I can see the media, that looks nothing like mine so I guess they combined them. Now it makes sense to me about the filter and pan. I was thinking you were buying the toilet paper roll looking filter and a pan, I could figure out how you were going to do that with out the internal mount for it. I had no idea there is yet a 3rd type of filter for these transmissions. Whats the part number on that pan and what did it cost?

the part number for the pan is listed here
Updating to a job 2+ trans filtration setup

cost varies by dealer. I didnt buy the pan because i realized i had the internal already.

[freekyFX4]

This has been an interesting thread. Thanks guys.

[wontonrunner]

Originally Posted by ZeroOne

Wontonrunner, just replied to you in the other thread.

Thanks for crawling under there to check for that 4-line metal canister type under the bellhousing. Your truck is the only one to deviate from this kind of external on "early build" 08+ job1 trucks. Either your installer is confusing your truck with the 6.0L's trans filter (which his description matches perfectly), or you really do have a very rare setup!

Just trying to get all of the info straight for anyone changing these filters in the future! Thanks for your help!

I owe everyone a big apology. I totally feel like a major Douche. I was at the dealership last week and had my buddy crawl under the truck and show me where the external filter was and he came out from under the truck with a red face. Turns out he flushed 2 trucks that day. My 08 and an 06. Well the tech that brought the truck to him swiped my filter off my seat and threw it into the 06 thinking that it was for that truck not realizing that was the filter I had provided.

So, my truck does not have an external filter. It is all internally filtered and that explains where the filter went too.

Sorry guys

[ZeroOne]

Originally Posted by wontonrunner

I owe everyone a big apology. I totally feel like a major Douche. I was at the dealership last week and had my buddy crawl under the truck and show me where the external filter was and he came out from under the truck with a red face. Turns out he flushed 2 trucks that day. My 08 and an 06. Well the tech that brought the truck to him swiped my filter off my seat and threw it into the 06 thinking that it was for that truck not realizing that was the filter I had provided.

So, my truck does not have an external filter. It is all internally filtered and that explains where the filter went too.

Sorry guys

Don't worry about it man! Understandable that you thought you had the external, especially considering the fact that they USED the one you brought in... (just not in your truck.) Glad to hear the outcome on it though. Thanks for posting the conclusion. At least you have the internal which makes life easier for servicing.

[Dusten]

much easier, and cheaper. good job on posting up, it helps clear up confusion for other readers.