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Old 09-08-2009, 10:41 PM
Trailtoy1993 Trailtoy1993 is offline
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DPF delete on the cheap?

Has anyone done this on the Ford? I have a family member with a F450 6.4 and I am trying to get him to come over to the darkside and delete all his emissions crap so he can start seeing some decent mileage from his truck.

On the Cummins I know the guys have figured out what resistors to put in to fool the egt and pressure sensors and allow you to delete the dpf for the cost of a couple resistors and a piece of pipe. Has anyone done this on the ford?

Please, no spend $800 bucks and be done with it replies, I am very much aware that that option exists. I wanna know if it can be done on the ford like it can and is on my cummins.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:56 PM
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:00 PM
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:29 AM
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:57 AM
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There's a product called DPF-R that does this. However, the mileage gains are minimal, and I'm told it only sorta/kinda works.
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Old 09-09-2009, 04:57 AM
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Good question. I've thought the same thing, add a couple of appropriate valued resistors and fool the computer into thinking there is no differential pressure through the DPF. BUT, I have heard (when these trucks first came out) that the truck will begin a regen every 600-800 miles whether it senses the pressure diff. or not.

Some guys were just installing a bypass pipe and putting the sensors off to the side while still plugged in and experienced a constant regen.

Just what I've heard, maybe someone that did the experiment will chime in... good luck with the quest!

Tim
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:03 AM
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Please, no spend $800 bucks and be done with it replies, I am very much aware that that option exists. I wanna know if it can be done on the ford like it can and is on my cummins.
It seems that Ford's computer is a little smarter than that. From what I have heard, no. It will go into continuous regen if it doesn't detect the differential pressure change over time. Basically, it may work for a few hundred miles, but it will eventually bite you in the a ss. DPF-r module is supposed to remedy this, but it doesn't always work. Not all trucks reject the DPF-r module, but it seems that a lot do. I don't know of anyone that still runs it, actually.

The next cheapest option is to get an Edge Racing Evolution. This will definitely work for the DPF deleting part. It actually re-programs the computer properly, so it doesn't have to be fooled. As far as the quality of programming, I can't vouch for it. I think it would be a good option if you have a manual transmission, but personally, I wouldn't run it if I had an auto.

Basically, if you have already spent $40,000 (or upwards of $60,000) on a truck, you ought to treat it right. There are only two options that I would trust to delete the DPF properly, and also protect the transmission. That is Spartan, and SCT (with custom tunes by Innovative or RCD)
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:07 AM
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The DPF-R If I understand it right plugs up to the map and pressure sensor and keeps the stock settings, the increase is minimal. Also if the computer senses that it hasn't been in regen in a while it goes into a default and cleans every 500 miles. I don't suggest using this, it looks like you're spraying for mosquito's and dumps tons of fuel. You would be better off leaving it stock and saving up for a real solution, (sorry I know that's not what you wanted to hear).
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:14 PM
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The DPF-R makes it to where you have to turn the key to on with out starting and wait 10 seconds before starting. There isnt really a cheap way of doing this mod unless you buy a used tuner. (kinda like the one for sale in my sig, cough. But it only works on job 1 trucks).
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Old 09-09-2009, 10:19 PM
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There has to be a way to fool it. My truck has a bad dpf, it will smoke right thru it, and I only regen maybe every 2000 miles. The milage isnt great though, I average about 15.
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