a question for superduty owners......

[jwiger]

i personally like the idea of lifting the whole cab, seems to me like a lot of extra work to pull the fenders then re-align all of the body pannels afterward/ is it possible to raise the cab with ropes? given they were all pulled at the same rate. how heavy is would a '05 supercab be? i may just do it for the exhaust i plan on doing in the future. i would love a generic checklist of things to do i.e. pull body mount bolts (there are X many of them), disconect "these x number of electrical connectors" in this general order, ....etc....

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Last edited by jwiger : 02-03-2006 at 05:06 PM.

[mschn99]

Originally Posted by jwiger

i personally like the idea of lifting the whole cab, seems to me like a lot of extra work to pull the fenders then re-align all of the body pannels afterward/ is it possible to raise the cab with ropes? given they were all pulled at the same rate. how heavy is would a '05 supercab be? i may just do it for the exhaust i plan on doing in the future. i would love a generic checklist of things to do i.e. pull body mount bolts (there are X many of them), disconect "these x number of electrical connectors" in this general order, ....etc....

i would guess the cab wieghs 800 lbs or so, depending on cab type....but i dont know for a fact....and as far as a rope system, i think it would be very tough to rig up....and then re-alignment would be extremely difficult........

[Burtonch]

I brought my SD in for possible head gaskets for the 2nd time. The first time they lifted the cab off and did the head job this time I spoke to the same mechanic I asked him if he was planning on doing the same he stated that lately with the 6.0 if there are occuring issues with the motor they (Hot line) is telling them to replace the entire motor he said if they are to replace the motor they will not take off the cab and just pull the motor, I hope this will happen with mine if they do in fact warranty the problem. As I mentioned in a earlier post I did have a edge module in it I took it all out before bringing it in. When I was there today I was talking to the mechanic and asked him if this will be covered under the warranty and he said yes. He also mentioned that he will take pictures of the motor and or Heads and send the,m to Hotline. I wonder if they make the final desision on weather a head job or motor or do they get involved on how and what caused the problem any insight on this would be greatly appriciated, P.S There was a another SD he was installing a motor in I asked him if it was under warranty he said no because the guy had a K&N air filter on, Can yoy beleive this crap he said the job was going to cost 11K. What a joke. Please take note if you are having any work performed by ford put it back to stock if you want it waranteed

[jwiger]

800 pounds eh? shouldn't be a prob. then i've done ropes to lift utility beds on chassis cab based fire trucks. on that used .5 inch rope (actually used just enough rope for the travel, ans substituted the lower 6 feet with chain to eleminate stretch issues, ran the 4 ropes straight up to pullies then over to the wall where they went through another 4 pullies to turn down the wall and finished at a 2x4. kept all 4 lines parallel to each other so the body would lift straight then hung weights and a five gallon bucket full of sand on the board to counter weight the bed enought that i could lift it with about 10 pounds of effort, suppose i could have added more sand and lightend the load but it worked out well enough with a 10 pound utility bed

[mschn99]

Originally Posted by jwiger

800 pounds eh? shouldn't be a prob. then i've done ropes to lift utility beds on chassis cab based fire trucks. on that used .5 inch rope (actually used just enough rope for the travel, ans substituted the lower 6 feet with chain to eleminate stretch issues, ran the 4 ropes straight up to pullies then over to the wall where they went through another 4 pullies to turn down the wall and finished at a 2x4. kept all 4 lines parallel to each other so the body would lift straight then hung weights and a five gallon bucket full of sand on the board to counter weight the bed enought that i could lift it with about 10 pounds of effort, suppose i could have added more sand and lightend the load but it worked out well enough with a 10 pound utility bed

well, if you decide to do this, email me and i will email you the procedure, ive emailed almost 350 techs a generic help letter to assist them....and as far as wieght....i was just guessing......dont quote me on it....but i cant imagine its over 1200lbs.........i think 800 SHOULD be close

[overl0rd]

Originally Posted by Burtonch

I brought my SD in for possible head gaskets for the 2nd time. The first time they lifted the cab off and did the head job this time I spoke to the same mechanic I asked him if he was planning on doing the same he stated that lately with the 6.0 if there are occuring issues with the motor they (Hot line) is telling them to replace the entire motor he said if they are to replace the motor they will not take off the cab and just pull the motor, I hope this will happen with mine if they do in fact warranty the problem. As I mentioned in a earlier post I did have a edge module in it I took it all out before bringing it in. When I was there today I was talking to the mechanic and asked him if this will be covered under the warranty and he said yes. He also mentioned that he will take pictures of the motor and or Heads and send the,m to Hotline. I wonder if they make the final desision on weather a head job or motor or do they get involved on how and what caused the problem any insight on this would be greatly appriciated, P.S There was a another SD he was installing a motor in I asked him if it was under warranty he said no because the guy had a K&N air filter on, Can yoy beleive this crap he said the job was going to cost 11K. What a joke. Please take note if you are having any work performed by ford put it back to stock if you want it waranteed

Couldn't have been just because it had a K&N, unless it was improperly installed and dusted the turbo. I'd try and get ahold of that guy and tell him if it didn't dust the turbo then grab a copy of the magnuson moss act and fight.

[mschn99]

Originally Posted by overl0rd

Couldn't have been just because it had a K&N, unless it was improperly installed and dusted the turbo. I'd try and get ahold of that guy and tell him if it didn't dust the turbo then grab a copy of the magnuson moss act and fight.

i would bet it is dusted.....too many trucks out there with aftermarket air cleaners to start not warrantying repairs without justification.....any dealer...and ford....knows that would be just asking for trouble and negative publicity......

[overl0rd]

A bit off topic but has the International truck version of the VT365 motor had the same issues as the Powerstroke?

[mschn99]

Originally Posted by overl0rd

A bit off topic but has the International truck version of the VT365 motor had the same issues as the Powerstroke?

yes and no.....they have had less wiring issues and programming issues, since they do not use a ford computer, strictly navistar programming.....as far as injectors...oil leaks...ect....yes....so its kind of a tough question to answer. they have not had many headgasket issues as far as i have heard.....but that may be all due to programming and turbo boost levels and when those levels kick in......

[overl0rd]

According to the International page, you can only get them rated to 230 horse/620 ft.lbs. They're governed to 2800 RPM with peak power at 2600, so that may also play a part in durability.