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post #1 of 45 Old 10-31-2007, 05:20 AM Thread Starter
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I've loved the Powerstroke's and she's treated me well but, I've been reading about the Cummins motor's. I know, I know. Nothing sounds better than The Powerstroke. But.. I'd like to try it.. Ford looks the best and thats why I wanna do it. I don't know which Cummins motor would be best... Ok the ford 7.3L is a good strong motor but the 24v cummins and duramax (bout time chevy found out that the 6.2L was wortheless) will smoke it. The 6.0L ford will show a 24V cummins whats up. Yet everyone knows (even a ford boy like me) that a 12V is pretty sick. So then when you guy's help me out with the motor to choose... 24V or 12V.. I'd then hook an Allison Tranny up to her... Then look out She'd be off the hook with all the right tuning! So Just let me know what ya think

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yep I think they call that a Fummins

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A 12 valve would be easier to do because it has no electronics and those p pumps can make a ton of power. If it was mine howver i would get a common rail for it, those are pretty cool.

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The Cummins are great engine...they make incredible torque. In my opinion the 12valve is the way to go. You can go mild to wild!!! Parts are incredibly cheap! The bottom end holds up to some incredible power. For little or no money you can build a wicked one:

Injectors---$450 (Pick a size pretty much)
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$675 for alot of performance

I would use an HX50 or H2E also...

Just my opinion...
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The Cummins are great engine...they make incredible torque. In my opinion the 12valve is the way to go. You can go mild to wild!!! Parts are incredibly cheap! The bottom end holds up to some incredible power. For little or no money you can build a wicked one:

Injectors---$450 (Pick a size pretty much)
Delivery Valves---$100 +CORE
Torque Plate---(LOSE IT, DONT NEED IT)
4,000 Gov. Spring---$125

$675 for alot of performance

I would use an HX50 or H2E also...

Just my opinion...
But Would this keep up with a 24V or Destroy it with the same amount of work done to it? Im basically asking which one is better...

Hold my beer watch this ****!


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With a 24 valve you need a high performance fuel system of some sort like a fass or a walbro set up, you need this to keep the vp44 alive, but if you do all of the upgrades, like injector, turbo and all that stuff a 24v should beat a 12v. But those p-pumps in the 12 valve you can adjust some stuff and it would be pretty mean. The common rail would be the hardest to convert, but it would be faster with less mods.

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I had a 24v 02 cummins and it kicked major a$$ after putting an edge pro comp drag module fass pump and intake and 5" stacks a detroit locker and the right guages it ran 38psi of boost, i had the manual and it would bark fourth gear when i got on it, I also put the banks intake on it as well. I would go with the 24v, wewilles is right about the fuel pump though it will not handle it and you don't want to replace the injection pump..

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what are you doing with the truck pulling?? or racen??? id get a 12v for pullin but for racen its up in the air except for the 12v you got to change the gears in the rear end since they come with 4-10's.. but 12v youll have less problems.. and also the 24v has to many electronics and thats too much stuff to track if something goes wrong..and a 24v you have to upgrade the whole fuel system and vp44.. and the allison transmission is junk i got a buddy whos got a allison in his duramax and he had it rebuilt new trq coverter and its been rebuilt twice and its going out again and he just has crazy larry on it but unless you was going to get the upgrade kits for it... but hope i was helpd out

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my The allison is overrated, the torqueshift is a great tranny.

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I've loved the Powerstroke's and she's treated me well but, I've been reading about the Cummins motor's. I know, I know. Nothing sounds better than The Powerstroke. But.. I'd like to try it.. Ford looks the best and thats why I wanna do it. I don't know which Cummins motor would be best... Ok the ford 7.3L is a good strong motor but the 24v cummins and duramax (bout time chevy found out that the 6.2L was wortheless) will smoke it. The 6.0L ford will show a 24V cummins whats up. Yet everyone knows (even a ford boy like me) that a 12V is pretty sick. So then when you guy's help me out with the motor to choose... 24V or 12V.. I'd then hook an Allison Tranny up to her... Then look out She'd be off the hook with all the right tuning! So Just let me know what ya think
Do some checking on the tranny, I thought the preferred hook for the cummings was the 5sp Auto Ford tranny, but I could be wrong.

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