Front Bearing Hub Theory - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 13 Old 11-04-2012, 02:57 AM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Deerfield, VA
Posts: 434
Thanks: 8
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Front Bearing Hub Theory

I just replaced my front left bearing hub on my '04 F-250. Does anyone know WHY Timken has 2 listings for the front hub, one 4WD hub with Coarse thread studs is $183., the other 4WD hub listing (mine) with fine threads is $380! I wanted to buy the USA made part, but I won't pay $400 for a F$#KING hub assembly, THAT'S ROBBERY. I bought the Autozone China part for $230.

Thanks for listening to my rant, one interesting observation, upon dis-assembly I noticed the grease in the old hub assembly was SUCKED out of the bearing towards the differential and settled around the axle seal. I wonder if our vacuum pulse 4WD hubs actually cause the bearing failures by pulling grease out over time. Repeated 4WD use I believe weakens the seals, and draws the grease out of the hub eventually. I live on a dirt road, and engage my 4WD once a week to "exercise" the system. Could my "good" habit have accelerated my failure?

Has anyone else noticed this on their truck? BTW, I've ordered Superwinch hubs, I'm plugging the vacuum and going manual, my hubs have always been inconsistent.

2004 F-250 XLT- FX4 - 4X4, Supercab, 8' bed, BRIGHT RED, Flint Gray Interior, 6.0 Torqshift
Sinister EGR Delete
Rotella ELC
Gutted throttle body
Coolant filter
Stator delete
Blue spring, 6.4 banjos
NChornet CCV mod
Rotella 5W-40 T-6 oil, Motorcraft filters
EDGE CTS monitor
DELTAJOHN is offline  
post #2 of 13 Old 11-04-2012, 08:01 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Lilfarmrboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Delaware
Posts: 1,065
Thanks: 21
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I just replaced my left front also for $203. Now I got a problem of hearing something binding up on the frontend. Going down the road hit a bump you hear a tapping ( can feel tapping in floor board and steering wheel) but it interment. If I lock the hubs you hear something grabbing in the front end all the time when the truck is in motion. Its driving me nuts. I checked underneath and everything feels and looks tight. Grrrr
Lilfarmrboy is offline  
post #3 of 13 Old 11-04-2012, 04:51 PM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Deerfield, VA
Posts: 434
Thanks: 8
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilfarmrboy View Post
I just replaced my left front also for $203. Now I got a problem of hearing something binding up on the frontend. Going down the road hit a bump you hear a tapping ( can feel tapping in floor board and steering wheel) but it interment. If I lock the hubs you hear something grabbing in the front end all the time when the truck is in motion. Its driving me nuts. I checked underneath and everything feels and looks tight. Grrrr
Sure you don't have a bad sway bar link?

2004 F-250 XLT- FX4 - 4X4, Supercab, 8' bed, BRIGHT RED, Flint Gray Interior, 6.0 Torqshift
Sinister EGR Delete
Rotella ELC
Gutted throttle body
Coolant filter
Stator delete
Blue spring, 6.4 banjos
NChornet CCV mod
Rotella 5W-40 T-6 oil, Motorcraft filters
EDGE CTS monitor
DELTAJOHN is offline  
post #4 of 13 Old 11-04-2012, 05:23 PM
Powerstroke Techie

 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Fayette/Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 5,825
Thanks: 33
Thanked 143 Times in 129 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Garage
Feedback Score: 4 reviews
coarse thread studs are probably not ABS. I can't remember for sure but that would explain the price difference

-Matt

Ford Senior Master Tech

2015 F-250 XLT 6.7L

2006 F-250 6.0L SOLD
sinner6.0L is offline  
post #5 of 13 Old 11-04-2012, 08:13 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Fallon, Nv
Posts: 2,403
Thanks: 54
Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Coarse thread hub assy has the ABS wire.

While buying one today I thought it was referring to the 4 mounting studs not the lug studs. Grrrr! WTF do the lug studs have to do with anything!?! I'd like to kick that rocket scientist right in the nuts!

Speaking of nuts, I get to buy 8 more tomorrow, grrrr.

sent from a dumb guy with a smart phone

Karl and his 2003 6.0

Barefoot Accelerator Pedal
TRICO Force wiper blades
Yellow Military Aircraft Valve Stem Caps
Offensive "Stick Family" Decal
Big Ol'Honkin 1 1/4" Shank Receiver Hitch


WHAT!?! I was trying to list stuff that everyone else
hasn't already listed for their truck!




Karls03 is offline  
post #6 of 13 Old 11-05-2012, 04:23 AM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Deerfield, VA
Posts: 434
Thanks: 8
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
NOPE! Coarse and Fine thread hubs were both equipped with the ABS wires, I had both in my hand. Now, I'm really pissed, after paying $230nfor an autozone chinese hub, I find the Timken fine thread hub on Amazon for $116. DUH! My head hurts! The Timken $116. hub must be made in China too, because the warranty is only for 1 year, the more expensive hubs have a three year warranty. I'm still baffled over the fine/coarse hub, I've never seen the coarse threads except on 1/2 ton trucks.

2004 F-250 XLT- FX4 - 4X4, Supercab, 8' bed, BRIGHT RED, Flint Gray Interior, 6.0 Torqshift
Sinister EGR Delete
Rotella ELC
Gutted throttle body
Coolant filter
Stator delete
Blue spring, 6.4 banjos
NChornet CCV mod
Rotella 5W-40 T-6 oil, Motorcraft filters
EDGE CTS monitor
DELTAJOHN is offline  
post #7 of 13 Old 11-05-2012, 04:37 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,239
Thanks: 12
Thanked 31 Times in 28 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I don't know if the 04 and back are like the 05-07 but with the newer ones you have two types. One for single rear wheel and one for large dual rear wheel which has a adapter for the heavier front rims to mount to the hub. meaning some have normal studs while other have shorter studs to mount the adapter to and the wheel mounts to the adapter.

2003 F350 6.0L KR CCLB DRW 4x4 auto - bone stock
Edge insight, EAS EGT, turbo timer
Strategys, DAX0-1;TEC0-7
Ford Pilot injection

2005 F250 6.0L XLT CCLB 4x4 auto
Strategys, UPV1;URV0;CYH0-7
PowerMax-KTS 11 blade SP Billet
ARP studs, BPD EGR cooler, 04 uppipe
Banks intercooler system, Airaid Dropin
4" turbo back Magnaflow exhaust w/4" DP
Edge insight, EAS EGT, turbo timer
SCT 3015
ID custom tunes
ID Pilot-Injection
ID FICM tune
U235a4 is offline  
post #8 of 13 Old 11-05-2012, 05:10 AM
Member
 
HAULINGASS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 78
Thanks: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I just replaced one of mine with a Timken, part# SP940200. which is the $350 one. The only other hub/bearing assembly i saw was for a dually and i dont beleive it was Timken. Good luck finding a truly made in USA bearing of any quality. Even the bearing in the Timken unit isnt labeled with the Timken name. Its one of their subsidiary's, NSK



06 f250
SCT w/Eric tunes
EDGE Insight
EGR Delete
4"MBRP Turbo Back no cat
Studs
58v FICM + Atlas 40
Leveling kit
Sinister Coolant Filter
Nitto trail grappler, 295/60/20 on 2010 wheels

"You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun, than you can with a kind word alone" - Al Capone
HAULINGASS is offline  
post #9 of 13 Old 11-05-2012, 06:08 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Fallon, Nv
Posts: 2,403
Thanks: 54
Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by U235a4 View Post
I don't know if the 04 and back are like the 05-07 but with the newer ones you have two types. One for single rear wheel and one for large dual rear wheel which has a adapter for the heavier front rims to mount to the hub. meaning some have normal studs while other have shorter studs to mount the adapter to and the wheel mounts to the adapter.
Allow me to clarify, once you narrow down to SRW, what JACK WAGON made them coarse and fine thread!?!

I don't have time to wait on shipping, so I got the O'Reilly one. While it specified coarse, it didn't specify coarse what.

sent from a dumb guy with a smart phone

Karl and his 2003 6.0

Barefoot Accelerator Pedal
TRICO Force wiper blades
Yellow Military Aircraft Valve Stem Caps
Offensive "Stick Family" Decal
Big Ol'Honkin 1 1/4" Shank Receiver Hitch


WHAT!?! I was trying to list stuff that everyone else
hasn't already listed for their truck!




Karls03 is offline  
post #10 of 13 Old 11-05-2012, 06:31 AM
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
ZMANN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 16,289
Thanks: 720
Thanked 814 Times in 783 Posts
Mentioned: 86 Post(s)
Quoted: 924 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
as far as your theory
the vacuum pulse is so small and travels through channels that are not internal to the unit bearing so no impact on the grease at all

04 is a split year and superwinch only makes hubs up to 04 unless you do a whole unit bearing delete ,, so dbl check what your getting will fit

.
.
.
Please donate to DTR Ron's Memorial
https://www.gofundme.com/2464axqr
We Miss you Ronnie
RIP

Last edited by ZMANN; 11-05-2012 at 07:10 AM.
ZMANN is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome