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Old 08-23-2012, 08:37 PM
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Gold vs the rest

I,ve read all opinions on what antifreeze to use in the 6.0. Most of you say to get rid of the Ford Gold and go with something with less silicate. I discovered tonite that the Gold creates a goo when mixed with an ethyl based antifreeze. I hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like the Gold is OK by itself. My first project is a coolant filter and non chemical flush. My truck is stock with 165k 2006 f250.
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Personally I believe the Ford Gold Coolant is just fine as long as your cooling system is maintained properly. This coolant cannot go 100K miles with no problems. It needs to be flushed out every so often (30K miles). Assuming your cooling system is squeaky clean and you have a coolant filter you should be fine on Gold Coolant, but why not use a CAT EC-1 rated ELC when you can. Lets face it...it doesn't cost that much more and it WILL last the 100K miles with minimal maintenance. It has less silicates in it. Its what they use in the VT365 in the International trucks and you don't hear about those engines having oil cooler issues very much.

Whatever you do DO NOT mix coolants. Like you said they will form a gel like substance in the radiator and just screw everything up beyond belief.


If I were you I would make sure your oil cooler is in good health, do a good complete flush with Restore and Restore+ and Distilled Water and then fill with CAT EC-1 ELC, add a coolant filter and be done with it for 100K+ miles

By all means, if you have any questions ask away!
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I agree, mostly. When I bought my truck I was told it was flushed and replaced with elc from the dealer when doing egr delete and oil cooler. After a phone call to the tech, I found out that fleetcharge from oreillys is whats believed to be in there now. I was leary at first about flushing without oil cooler replacement and clogging it up but after much reading I think I have decided to do a non chemical flush. Im replacing with Delo ELC which is said to be one of the top choices on here and runs about $17/gal. Im scared to clog up the fresh cooler
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My deltas are 5-7 degrees so why flush with chemicals and screw up a seemingly good oil cooler. My main concern is I took the truck to the local 6.0 expert for a flush and all he did was drain the radiator and refill with tap water and peak. It appears he mixed two different types of antifreeze. I've got the IPR filter kit ordered to try and clean a possible mess up. After I flush the system I plan on using Cat EC-1 unless I get a better option. The PO had the truck serviced religiously at the Ford dealer so I assume it has Gold in it. Would it be absolutely necessary to do a Restore flush or not?
I know I"ll get answers to these questions and I really appreciate in advance the responses. I have worn out the search button and found a lot of good advice, but you never know when a more definitive answer will appear. Thanks again to all.

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I,ve read all opinions on what antifreeze to use in the 6.0. Most of you say to get rid of the Ford Gold and go with something with less silicate. I discovered tonite that the Gold creates a goo when mixed with an ethyl based antifreeze. I hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like the Gold is OK by itself. My first project is a coolant filter and non chemical flush. My truck is stock with 165k 2006 f250.
You must be watching videos from PowerStrokeHelp.com.

The Gold IS an ethylene glycol based antifreeze.

For some reason BH felt it necessary to say that the Gold is Propylene Glycol (and not change the video) ................ Of course he is completely wrong on that!
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You must be watching videos from PowerStrokeHelp.com.

The Gold IS an ethylene glycol based antifreeze.

For some reason BH felt it necessary to say that the Gold is Propylene Glycol (and not change the video) ................ Of course he is completely wrong on that!
You are correct, sir!

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I'm guilty. I was watching powersrtokehelp.com. Thanks for clearing that up bismic and jcm3.
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I'm guilty. I was watching powersrtokehelp.com. Thanks for clearing that up bismic and jcm3.
For cryin out lout, if you want your truck to last stay far far away from powerstrokehelp dot com and Billy Bob.
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If you have a low delta, then by all means DO NOT flush with chemicals.

YOU WILL clog your cooler.

Now, back to flushing technique.....

Start with tap, remove at least the drivers engine plug, flush by removing the lower Rad hose, not pet cork.

Flush the radiator by filling it from top hose inlet and stop up the bottom outlet with your hand then let it rush out, do this about 10 - 15 times.

Do the above for a couple of hours then drain everything and refill with distilled leave out the block plug or plugs and let a gallon or so run out of it, then complete flush with distilled water until clear add ELC 3 Gal 100% 3 Gal Dist. in that order and top off to the new cold level with ELC then go on a 100K mile trip around the U.S. you'll end up using 3.5 gal ELC and about 3 gal dist. and a dark red coolant, not Pink like Kool Aid.


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I'm doing a coolant change today and I went and got the coolant from a truck stop where I live at, I got the Mobile Delvac extended life cat ec-1 and its a black bottle and red coolant, but it says 50/50 prediluted coolant antifreeze. Is this good or is there another one, it didn't say concentrated is there a difference......thanks

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