HHO kit on a 6.0?

[brianjbeach85]

Anyone hooked up a HHO kit yet on a 6.0? I see them on the 7.3 on you tube.. guy gains 2-3mpgs using it. I'm starting to get intrigued by the HHO kits.. and thinking about building my own. Seems straight forward with HHO dumping in just past the air filter/ behind the MAF.. would then be compressed by the turbo and intercooled pushed into motor. Comments??

HHO= Hydrogen fuel cell

[brianjbeach85]

i've been so intrigued with this HHO thing all day.. seriously seems like it could work to improve power and economy.. but looking for input from everyone else.

[4realestate]

OK...
I will bite.
Where can I get more info on this ?

Joe

[Six0~Stroker]

Many guys don't believe in them.... Im not one of those people

[brianjbeach85]

it would seem that hydrogen being extremely combustable.. burning more complete and cleaner would create the power and increase in mpg's...

kinda like a water meth kit? or propane injection... but without the need for nozzles just tap in behind MAF or infront and let the turbo/engine vacuum pull it in...

Youtube HHO f350 7.3L that dude is running one and he hand calcs the gains. sloppy setup in the bed.. but it works

[Term3]

These don't work or they would be on every vehicle made. Auto makers spend millions on squeezing every ounce of power and economy they can out of vehicles they make to meet EPA mandates. Think about it, your using electric power to produce hydrogen, the electric power is produced by your very inefficient engine that spews out the vast majority of its energy out the tailpipe and into the coolant. If everything ran at 100% effieciency then yah it would work. Save your money for something other then "snake oil" crap like this.


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[Six0~Stroker]

And..... shabam




Sorry I was waiting for that...



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[Term3]

I'm not trying to dump on you at all bud. I would love to spend a few hundred to squeeze out a few miles per gallon out of my truck. It just drives me nuts when these companies make claims of substantial increases in fuel economy that they "say" have been "independantly tested and proven", yah but not by any acredited independent labs it hasn't. Then in the fine print there is ALWAYS an escape clause that gives them an out if you spend a crap load of money on their gizmo and complain that you don't get the results that they advertise. Those customers that bought the gizmo and say they did improved their fuel economy I'll guaranty you if a lab tested their vehicle with and without the gizmo on that there would be no difference and if there was it would be LESS fuel economy with the gizmo on because it consumes energy which basically comes out of your fuel tank. These companies mottos are "There's a sucker born every minute". When car companies spot some new technology that really works and can help them sell their product they will jump all over it and spend a CRAP load of money to buy out that technology so they can own the patent to make a SUPER CRAP load of money.


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[pcris]

Originally Posted by Term3

I'm not trying to dump on you at all bud. I would love to spend a few hundred to squeeze out a few miles per gallon out of my truck. It just drives me nuts when these companies make claims of substantial increases in fuel economy that they "say" have been "independantly tested and proven", yah but not by any acredited independent labs it hasn't. Then in the fine print there is ALWAYS an escape clause that gives them an out if you spend a crap load of money on their gizmo and complain that you don't get the results that they advertise. Those customers that bought the gizmo and say they did improved their fuel economy I'll guaranty you if a lab tested their vehicle with and without the gizmo on that there would be no difference and if there was it would be LESS fuel economy with the gizmo on because it consumes energy which basically comes out of your fuel tank. These companies mottos are "There's a sucker born every minute". When car companies spot some new technology that really works and can help them sell their product they will jump all over it and spend a CRAP load of money to buy out that technology so they can own the patent to make a SUPER CRAP load of money.


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^Agree

Law of Conservation of Energy- new energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred.

[Chatham036]

Originally Posted by pcris

^Agree

Law of Conservation of Energy- new energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred.

Only for the sake of arguement... and because scientific theories have always been fun...

Now i may be misunderstanding the HHO system and how it works.. BUT if i do understand it to be correct... you could actually use a water meth system and run a small nozzel to dispurse 100% water rather than they typical 40% meth 60% water mix.

Now this would decrease egts. Now for the scientific portion of my argument..

to create ignition (standard ignition, not diesel ignition) you will need three things. Spark, Fuel, and oxygen.

water in its purest form will have the molecular compisition of two parts hydrogen to one part oxygen. this one part oxygen would aid in the combustion of the fuel, while the hydrogen would aid in keeping the egts lower than the control varible by thermal/ phase transfer.

Can anyone elaborate further for why this in principle would not work? the snow kits are tested and proven to have economy gains as far as i know. Granted the gains are realistically not as large as 3 mpg