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Can i add power towing

my 04 has exhaust, s&b intake, blue spring, superchips flashpaq, innovatives mild ficm flash, my oil temp gets up to 230 max while towing @ 75 for about an hour, trans temp doesn't go above 162, egt doesn't see much over 1100 anytime maybe 1200 for a second. Now i'm doing the egr delete so some temps may be lower so question is if these numbers are good is there any reason i can't start towing with stage 3(100HP) instead of 2(50HP). oh my normal load is 8-9k.

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CFM+ INTAKE ELBOW
4" TURBO BACK STRIAGHT PIPE NO CAT
SCT W/ VIVS TUNES
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SUPERCHIPS DUAL LAZER GAUGE (EGT&BOOST)
ford blue spring
banjo bolts
and heck its my slowest vehicle gotta work on that
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I wouldn't do it. Your right on the edge with the oil temps, although you have a bit more than 20* until you defuel. For me, it's easier if I set the tune knowing that it will limit me, rather than trying to rely on my right foot. I ALWAYS want to go faster and sometimes we can make irrational decisions "in the moment".

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Just an FYI... Egr delete raises EGT temps by 50-100*
I would not raise the power towing 8-10K ANY MORE then 50hp...

IMO with your temps even that tune is pushing the engine close to the limit.
Especially since your on stock Head Bolts

If you tune it up you will be seeing ARP headstuds earlier then you want


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the egt may be true if my egr hadn't been unplugged in 06, thanks for the advise though. i'll get more acurate numbers towing to richmond this weekend the s&b gets here tomorow, i put the stocker back on after my afe rusted up and man did it kill the truck towing.

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S&B intake
CFM+ INTAKE ELBOW
4" TURBO BACK STRIAGHT PIPE NO CAT
SCT W/ VIVS TUNES
ZOODAD MOD
SUPERCHIPS DUAL LAZER GAUGE (EGT&BOOST)
ford blue spring
banjo bolts
and heck its my slowest vehicle gotta work on that

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Like we said... Those temps are fine, but any more power and you will be seeing those numbers higher. Plus increased cylinder pressures with a higher tune.... for the HG

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Just an FYI... Egr delete raises EGT temps by 50-100*
I would not raise the power towing 8-10K ANY MORE then 50hp...

IMO with your temps even that tune is pushing the engine close to the limit.
Especially since your on stock Head Bolts

If you tune it up you will be seeing ARP headstuds earlier then you want


Just my 2cents

EGR delete raises EGT temps? Pretty sure it's just the opposite.

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may just be time to get a sct, my flashpaq just never ran like my 1705 tuner. from what i understand the 1705 had more sct tunning in it and after they split superchips just wasn't same. that with the ficm flash may be just the little extra i'm looking for and safe.

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S&B intake
CFM+ INTAKE ELBOW
4" TURBO BACK STRIAGHT PIPE NO CAT
SCT W/ VIVS TUNES
ZOODAD MOD
SUPERCHIPS DUAL LAZER GAUGE (EGT&BOOST)
ford blue spring
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EGR delete raises EGT temps? Pretty sure it's just the opposite.


I was just talking with some poeple about this in another thread and MANY people agreed that it raised them a bit... I will try to find that thread and post (hopefully I can find it)

I am not trying to mislead anyone but I personally have noticed it and another local guy did too.

Here comes a dumb explanantion until I find the smart poeples answer in the other thread


EGR cooler intact= exhuast flow comes out of engine and roughly 20% gets routed through the egr cooler back into the intake, so only 80% of the "total exhuast gases" exit though the pipe... pretty simple


EGR Delete installed= All 100% of the "total exhuast gases" exits through the exhuast pipe thus having MORE hot air in there equaling more heat...

^^Point #1

ALSO, due to that 20% old gases NOT coming into the intake the engine takes/uses ALL 100% CLEAN fresh air... That clean air has a more effecient/ hotter burn creating more HP (which is a benefit) but since you have more fresh air creating a hotter more powerful burn you ALSO get hotter EGT temps resulting from that



Actually, the above kinda does make sense now
I don't feel like going back and looking for that thread unless someone still does not believe me and wants me to PROVE that the above statement is correct

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may just be time to get a sct, my flashpaq just never ran like my 1705 tuner. from what i understand the 1705 had more sct tunning in it and after they split superchips just wasn't same. that with the ficm flash may be just the little extra i'm looking for and safe.


That would be the BEST option for you IMO

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it's not really the max power i'm looking for just how it comes in i think thats what the flashpaq lacks, the ficm tune helped and was hoping it would be enough. we'll see after this weekend. six0 i know your right but i'm cheap too so i tryed the 200.00 ficm tune before spendin 450.00 for tuner and customs.

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04 F250 6.0 FX4 CC SB
S&B intake
CFM+ INTAKE ELBOW
4" TURBO BACK STRIAGHT PIPE NO CAT
SCT W/ VIVS TUNES
ZOODAD MOD
SUPERCHIPS DUAL LAZER GAUGE (EGT&BOOST)
ford blue spring
banjo bolts
and heck its my slowest vehicle gotta work on that

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