Hopefully not to late.... syn oil conversion - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
Powerstroke.org is the premier Diesel Truck Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-14-2012, 09:59 PM
Premium Member



 

Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,540
Thanks: 3
Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Hopefully not to late.... syn oil conversion

I have a 2006 F350 with 49000 miles. Have always run standard DELO or Rotella in it....until today. Switched to Rotella 5x40 synthetic. Was doing some reading tonight and heard some horror stories of the new oil breaking loose deposits and creating havoc on the motor and components. Also never knew how important it was to use motorcraft oil filters. The oil change place just used a paper filter. Is it possible to open the canister and replace it with out draining all the oil. Also they put in 15qts and i heard some say this is to much. I live in western WA so temps dont get too cold in the winter usally the lowest is mid 20s but not very often. I really only use the truck for heavy towing in temps up to mid 90s and pulling several mountain passes. Any advice is appreciated if i made the right decision.

2006 F350 Lariat CC SRW 4x4
6.0 liter
Edge Evolution
S & B Air intake
Catalytic Conv. Deleted


Thanks
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 04-15-2012, 04:52 AM
Compression Ignition Addict

 

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 512
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
I would not leave a non-ford oil filter on my truck. I also would not want to waste $100 worth of oil. I have heard of the non-ford filters causing more problems than good.

Edited to correct drunk posting. This is what happens when you confuse vehicles and forums that you post on!!!!

Last edited by Heathrm; 04-16-2012 at 03:15 AM. Reason: stupidity!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3  
Old 04-15-2012, 05:23 AM
Hillbilly Deluxe

 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Corning, NY
Posts: 2,810
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathrm View Post
I would not leave a non-ford oil filter on my truck.
Ford doesn't make thier own filters so why would that matter? Thier filters are made by Purolator...

IMO the Donaldson ELF7405 is the best filter out ther for a Powerstroke. Superior filter qualities and it adds almost 1.5 quarts of capacity.

The OP, you will be fine, dont drain your oil. I have converted all 3 of my PSD's to Rotella T6 and have never had an issue. On the matter of capacity check your owners manual, or call Ford. I have always run with the rule that over filling is not good, but I have never had any solid evidence that say a 1/2 quart will hurt anything.


Sent from my SPH-D710 using AutoGuide.com App
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4  
Old 04-15-2012, 06:02 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 2,770
Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 13 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by STROKED_NY_023 View Post
Ford doesn't make thier own filters so why would that matter? Thier filters are made by Purolator...
They're made by RACOR
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5  
Old 04-15-2012, 06:10 AM
Powerstroke Techie
 

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Sassamansville, Pa
Posts: 9,155
Thanks: 51
Thanked 125 Times in 96 Posts
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathrm View Post
I would not leave a non-ford oil filter on my truck. I also would not want to waste $100 worth of oil. The cheapest way out is to go buy a new oil container, that will hold 15 qts., drain/filter the oil going into the container. Pour it back in and rig something up to refilter it going back in. You might feel comfortable just pouring it back in also. This is not the best scenario, but one that would work. I have heard of the non-ford filters causing more problems than good.
No need to drain the oil to put in a oil filter. Inside the oil filter housing, on the bottom is a anti-drain valve/poppet. When the filter is in place, the filter applies pressure to the valve/poppet to stop oil from draining the oil filter housing.


When you loosen the oil filter cap all the way, the filter rises away from the valve/poppet and the oil drains back into the oil pan. So all he needs to do is loosen the cap/filter, wait about 2-3minutes for oil to drain, then pull out the cap/filter and replace with new filter.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6  
Old 04-15-2012, 06:14 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Nacogdoches, TX
Posts: 11,007
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by STROKED_NY_023 View Post
Ford doesn't make thier own filters so why would that matter? Thier filters are made by Purolator...

IMO the Donaldson ELF7405 is the best filter out ther for a Powerstroke. Superior filter qualities and it adds almost 1.5 quarts of capacity.
Racor does and it's also a 6.0 :
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7  
Old 04-15-2012, 06:22 AM
Hillbilly Deluxe

 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Corning, NY
Posts: 2,810
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by jesilvas View Post
Racor does and it's also a 6.0 :
Ok fine they are now made by Rancor...

I know its a 6.0, I was using that filter as an example. Donaldson makes a filter for 6.0 as well. You know what my point was...


Sent from my SPH-D710 using AutoGuide.com App
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8  
Old 04-15-2012, 06:26 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Atlanta area
Posts: 541
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Woah, this thread is full of slightly, well moslty off info.

Nordstrom, as mentioned above: just unscrew the housing cap, let the oil drain into the pan, replace that pos filter, screw the lid back down just slightly snug (do not overtighten or you could crack the plastic cap). When you start the engine it will prime the filter housing back up and you're good to go. Who know's, maybe the filter that's in there has already let the oil drain into the pan because is too short. Be careful of the fact that the pos filter they put in may have required a different cap (like napa's 6.0 filter does) so make sure you have the stock cap.

Ford's spin on filters are made by purolator, like the FL-820S that is so popular. They may make the spin on for the 7.3 as well. They have absolutely nothing to do with the 6.0 cartridge filter. The oil and fuel filters are made by Racor. Your options for the correct filter are Motorcraft from the dealer, Racor from an International truck parts counter, and Motorcraft or Fram from Wal-mart. Fram didn't put any of themselves into the 6.0 filter and instead throw Racor filters in their boxes and charge like $.80 less than the motorcraft box. It is the exact same filter and made by Racor.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9  
Old 04-15-2012, 06:32 AM
Premium Member
 

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada
Posts: 3,736
Thanks: 0
Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
I puzzled here. Wondering about the amount of oil used? Just check the dipstick.

As for synthetic breaking loose deposits, the detergent additive package is the same as any other oil with the exception of the break-in oil which has a larger detergent additive package for obvious reasons. The present oil additive packages don't build up sludge like the old oils did.

Last edited by Term3; 04-15-2012 at 06:48 AM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10  
Old 04-15-2012, 07:37 AM
Premium Member



 

Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,540
Thanks: 3
Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Thanks for making me feel better about my decision. Now that i am running Syn oil what are the maximum safe EOT i should not exceed. As stated i often pull heavy loads over the mountains and always tried never to exceed 230 but have seen post on this site that say 230 is no big deal running syn oil. I have the PBD EGR cooler and soon will have the PPD oil cooler conv kit (hopefully by the end of the summer) which i know will help but in the mean time what temps are ok to reach for short and long periods of time.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
Garage Plus, Vendor Tools vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.

vB.Sponsors