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Old 04-11-2012, 03:58 AM
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Have you driven a lemon... lately?

I bought a used 2006 F250 XL, regular cab long box 4x4 with the 6.0 and the 6 speed manual last summer and am wondering what I gotten myself into.

First time something broke was on the test drive and a ball joint or something went out in the front end, and I thought, what are the odds of something else going wrong. Next the rear ABS sensor went out, but that is a typical problem (I guess ford uses crappy sensors). Then the integrated trailer brake controller flashes TBC Fault every time I start it up. Then I was having a sporadic problem with the steering not wanting to return to center after turning a corner and finally I was stranded in my parking lot at work because I couldn't get the pickup into gear and the dealer just said that I need a new slave cylinder AND a clutch. I have also not done anything to bullet proof the motor yet!

Here is my question. This is the first Ford product I have owned. Does this kind of typically happen with these vehicles? It is a 2006 with 72k and that doesn't seem old to me.

Thanks for letting me vent.
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:28 AM
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So you have a few front end problems. I'd have em fix it since it broke on the test drive. It's probably all related.
TBC is probably hacked trailer wiring at the rear. Big deal.
ABS sometimes go out.
The trans, I'm not sure. Low fluid?

Honestly, those don't really seem that bad. Front end issues were common, the next two are little. Trans might be a big, might not.
72k miles is a lot if no one kept up maintenance though.
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I bought a used 2006 F250 XL, regular cab long box 4x4 with the 6.0 and the 6 speed manual last summer and am wondering what I gotten myself into.

First time something broke was on the test drive and a ball joint or something went out in the front end, and I thought, what are the odds of something else going wrong.
High, very very high.
I would gather you did not pay a qualified mechanic to check this truck out before buying it.?.?
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Next the rear ABS sensor went out, but that is a typical problem (I guess ford uses crappy sensors). Then the integrated trailer brake controller flashes TBC Fault every time I start it up. Then I was having a sporadic problem with the steering not wanting to return to center after turning a corner and finally I was stranded in my parking lot at work because I couldn't get the pickup into gear and the dealer just said that I need a new slave cylinder AND a clutch. I have also not done anything to bullet proof the motor yet!

Here is my question. This is the first Ford product I have owned. Does this kind of typically happen with these vehicles? It is a 2006 with 72k and that doesn't seem old to me.
Reality check:

You bought a used truck....and bought it knowing it had issues.
If something breaks on the test drive, that typically doesn't indicate that the vehicle was well cared for.

That problem you are having with the steering wheel not returning to center, and wandering is probably because whoever replaced the balljoint doesn't quite understand the front end of a 4x4...or whoever paid for the repair told the mechanic to do it as cheap as possible.
When you are in far enough to replace the balljoint, you should replace the u-joints on the axles as well. Your right there and they are cheap and easy to replace at this point, and will cost you much much more to have to go back in later to change.
Those u-joints tend to wear a certain way, and once you disturb them (like having them go beyond where they have worn when removed for balljoint replacement) will result in their failure. This holds true on ANY solid axle 4 wheel drive.
It sucks to have to go back in to address the failed u-joint and the cost of the seals you will need to replace will cost you more than the u-joint itself. Do it right, do it once. Half-azz the job and do it over and over and over again until it is done right.
When that u-joint fails, it will cause the steering wheel to act rather strangely as the u-joint locks up as it rotates. It may pull to one side, then quickly pull to the other side. The steering wheel may stick when turning corners, it may vibrate like crazy at all speeds.
It is also possible you have some other suspension related issue with the front end that could do result in it acting the way you describe. It isn't easy to diagnose suspension problems without physically seeing the truck..driving it..riding in it.
Since you knew that there was bad front end maintenance when you bought it, you should expect to have to rebuild the front end from one side to the other. If anything is "good" then that should be viewed as a bonus.

As far as not doing anything to the motor yet, don't.
Not until you get the proper gauges on it. Those gauges should be very high on your to-do list. They should be so high on that list that they should come straight out of your next paycheck. Those gauges will pay for themselves many many times over if you know what to watch for, and you react when they give you a warning...and not waiting for total disaster to strike.

You bought a used diesel truck that requires frequent and expensive maintenance...and you have no idea what that maintenance was like previous to your ownership, so you should expect to have to play catch-up on it.
Check out the "basic info for the 6.0 owner" link in my signature line for more info about the gauges you need, why and what to look for.
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What he said...
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I have the same truck, love it. Bought it with 30 k miles on it. Repairs have not been too bad to date and mostly under warranty, such as a abs sensor, brake calipers, egr valve, cam pos sensor, fuel pump, ball joints. Regular maintenance and some mods. 105,000 miles currently.

Best of luck, read a lot on this forum and you'll be ok. Get a monitor.


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Old 04-11-2012, 03:43 PM
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I bought it from the Ford dealer in Rochester, MN. I guess that indicates the quality of service they perform if they only replace the one failed component.

I had a 92 chevy half ton and I didn't care for the IFS when I would have a snow plow mounted as it would sag quite a bit. I find it kind of funny that the one of the solid axle selling points is that there are less moving parts so there should be less chances for failure but I never touched the front end of the Chevy (except to grease the zerks) and I already have to replace a bunch of parts on the solid axle.

Can you get new parts that have zerks, rather than the "maintenance free"?

I was thinking of flushing with distilled water and replacing the Ford gold coolant as I would be afraid of plugging up the oil cooler with using the restore products and I wouldn't do that without a monitor.

I guess I would be upset if I bought a brand new pickup for $40K+ and then you have to take it to the dealer for warranty work constantly. I had a coworker who had a Focus and was saying how the dealership was so nice to him when he went in for warranty work, and I thought, "I would rather have the dealership be a bunch of jerks and not need to take my Toyota there to get fixed".
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You bought a USED AND ABUSED truck...Please don't expect anything from it...

It was explained above as to why you have front end problems....Crappy/cheap work!


Don't blame the manufacturer for the Previous owners halfazz job
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:05 PM
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At the VERY least, get a Scangauge II from Autozone.
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Old 04-11-2012, 05:28 PM
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72k isn't new by any means (6 years old now). These fronts are heavy and they do get worn out.

3 out of my 4 balljoints were shot by 70k. So was the entire draglink. I'm not sold on greaseable fittings. I have seen them many of them wear out as fast or faster than motorcraft.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:27 PM
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All of the above points are good ones. Seems like the truck was not properly cared for by the previous owner. That and the fact that you bought it used and it is 6 years old and has 72k miles on it mean that you really can't claim it is a LEMON.
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