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post #1 of 27 Old 02-28-2012, 06:19 AM Thread Starter
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Napa/wix oil filter

Before anybody goes haywire, hear me out. I read on another forum about the napa/wix filters being used and people trying to shove the oem filter in the cap, and things going south.

With that said, I did not see any mention of using the napa/wix filter and cap themselves as a problem. I ran that combo for 10k+ miles and never had any starvation issues. Aren't those ok to use, I would get the whole assembly and change it all out(cap and filter) when I would change oil.

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no because it still doesnt seat right and they come apart, spend the extra 5 dollars and get the right filter


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I don't see a problem with that... I used to use Penzoil filters in the OEM cap, before I got the BPD cooler/filter.

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I for one am not willing to bet a $10g engine on a oil filter that may or may not work correctly. Stick with OEM filters and find somewhere else to save the $5.

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Just FYI, here are the specs on the Napa filter and cap:

Part Number: 57312
UPC Number: 765809573123
Principal Application: Ford Trucks w/ 6.0L Diesel Engine (03-07), 6.4L Diesel (08-10), IHC VT365 Diesel Engine, IHC School Buses (Has lid attached to filter - this filter will replace the 57314 for trucks)
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Style: Cartridge Lube Metal Free Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 8.203
Outer Diameter Top: 4.144
Outer Diameter Bottom: 3.270
Inner Diameter Top: Closed
Inner Diameter Bottom: 1.550
Beta Ratio: 2/20/75=11/25/32
Nominal Micron Rating: 17


I am looking for the Motorcraft filter specs for comparison.

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So a WIX (or Napa Gold) oil filter, with the included appropriate cap for proper fitment, or any other filter such as a Fleetguard Stratapore LF16166 shouldn't be used because they don't seat/seal properly and they come apart? Only the Motorcraft (Racor) filter should be used ever?

PS: I use Motorcraft filters so don't flame me. I'm just asking because I never know when I'd be in a situation to have to make a choice of something other than Motorcraft. I can get Fleetguard filters through work for like $6 each (if I buy 6) because of their volume discount from the distributor...and our local Napa gives me the volume discounts afforded to them as well if I pay cash. Personally I'm spending the extra coin on Motorcraft for now.
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I never had any issues running Napa filters that come with the cap... We have Two 6.0s both running them....



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That is it.


Alternative filters probably have no issues independently. The primary problem is when the OEM oil filter cap is discarded and the disposable cap is then reused perhaps with an inconsistent branded alternative - or even OEM - filter. Clearly these are examples where fitment will be less than ideal. And as mentioned, the end pieces are prone to breakage at a higher rate than OEM filters...obviously undesirable. The disposable cap looks like a substantial cap on its own but the exposed media filter design is not "spin on" and unintended consequences are easily induced by lack of fit. The safest route is to avoid the "penny-wise, dollar-foolish" adoption of inconsistent filter selection based on the lowest cost on the shelf.

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Neither of the 2 i used came apart, and did seat in apparently. I don't know how the oil routes but I am sure the oil rails and such should be through the filter first then on to everything else.

I am basing this on building icp and commanding 4000psi at wot, which the engine did and still does.

I have the bpd kit now as well, my cooler got a chunk of something and clogged.

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