Coolant Flush - Ford Says "BG PRODUCTS" - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
Powerstroke.org is the premier Diesel Truck Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-04-2012, 01:40 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 317
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Coolant Flush - Ford Says "BG PRODUCTS"

I would like to flush and switch to ELC....I called ford (2 diff dealers) and they say they can do it with their "BG Flush machine" using "BG additives" to clean it. I ask them about restore, or VC9 and they get all confused. What is a BG flush, and can I have them flush with the BG machine and put in my Delo ELC after that???? THoughts?

I have a coolant filter on the way, my deltas are within spec. Oil cooler and EGR cooler were replaced at 90,000 miles by ford (only warranty work done on truck) before I bought the truck, Ford gold was put back in. Truck now has 130k and is tuned by IDP. ECT is 190 always unloaded, EOT ranges but is generally 198 doin 65 on flat ground (never seen more than a 10* spread).

Am I asking for trouble by doing the BG flush and switching to ELC with good temps and no intention to replace the oil cooler anytime soon?

3 options:

1.) add filter, keep gold coolant
2.) add filter, flush with distilled, add elc
3.) add filter, do dealers BG flush, add elc


opinions?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 01-04-2012, 01:42 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: covington
Posts: 444
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
subscribed
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3  
Old 01-04-2012, 01:51 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Bucks County PA
Posts: 1,344
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
subscribed
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4  
Old 01-04-2012, 01:55 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Warren, Oregon
Posts: 1,515
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
There flush is good to remove the Gold junk and that is where it ends. I used 1/2 gallon Restore then 1/2 gallon Restore+ in the end a new Ford t/stat 3C3Z-8575-AA Thermostat with housing & o-ring 48 gallons of distilled water 1/4 tank of fuel and 12.5hrs of my time but my system is clean. Here is the flush i did.

This should help you understand the reason to ditch the Gold junk it can't take the heat. Gauges are a must to do this need to know EOT-ECT

Replaced oil cooler still difference in temps
Flushing and cleaning the 6.0

Restore is for cleaning out any silicate goo. VC-9 is for cleaning out iron and scale. Restore Plus is the same as VC-9 and cheaper.

To flush drain the coolant by removing the lower radiator hose from the radiator, and removing the drain plug from the driver side of the block. There is a drain plug on the passenger side also but you have to remove the starter to get to it. I don't bother with that one.
I also highly recommend you pull the thermostat out on your first drain and put the housing back without the thermostat. It only takes about 10 minutes and will save you 2.5 hrs or so in doing this whole procedure.

Ok now put the lower hose back on and the drain plug back in the block if you removed it. This is the procedure you will use each time to drain the system, except you will not touch the thermostat again until you're finished the whole procedure. Make sure that you set your heater to high while doing this to flush out the heater core as well.

Fill the cooling system with distilled water, start the truck and let the water circulate for 5 minutes. (if you did not remove the thermostat you must run the truck until the thermostat opens + 5 minutes to circulate. This takes 15 to 20 minutes each cycle and is why you should just remove the thermostat) Stop the engine. Drain the system and repeat the flush.

Now add at least 1/2 gallon of Restore and fill with distilled water. I used cardboard in front of the radiator because you have to get to 185* 190* for these products to work. Drive truck or run on high idle for 60-90 minutes just before you get back from your drive remove the cardboard this will help in the cool down same on the Restore+ flush. Drain and flush 3 or 4 times. or tell clean

Add 2qts VC-9 or 1/2gal of Restore Plus, top with distilled water, and drive the truck or run on high idle for 60-90 minutes. Now drain and flush until flush water comes out clear and clean. When you get clean flush water, flush 3 more times using distilled water while draining the block.

After your final distilled water drain it is time to put the thermostat back in. I recommend you install a new thermostat at this point. They are only $20 or so and it is good maintenance procedure to do so. Fill with 3.5 or 4 gals of ELC concentrated coolant and top off with distilled water. Drive the truck or let run for a while topping off with distilled water. Check the truck over the next few days and top up as required while any air left in the system works its way out.

Keep some 50/50 ELC on hand to use to top off the cooling system from here out and you are good to go.

new t/stat from Ford it should all come together (housing-t/stat-o-ring) in a box. The part number is RT-1169
My advice is to get some ph strips from Napa and check the ph level before add ELC coolant because you what a ph level of 7.0 if higher you must keep flushing to get to a neutral balance in the distilled water then you can add coolant, for me it was 6 flushes or 24 gallons of distilled water.

Here is the Restore Product from Cummins dealer
http://www.fleetguard.com/pdfs/produ...LI33024-GB.pdf
2 stroker
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5  
Old 01-04-2012, 02:00 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: May 2010
Location: Warren, Oregon
Posts: 1,515
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I think the coolant filter should be in place for 5-7000mi to filter the system before doing a flush to remove most of the casting sand and other junk in the system to try and keep from plugging the oil cooler.
2 stroker
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6  
Old 01-04-2012, 02:48 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 317
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 stroker View Post
I think the coolant filter should be in place for 5-7000mi to filter the system before doing a flush to remove most of the casting sand and other junk in the system to try and keep from plugging the oil cooler.
2 stroker
Interesting. Okay, we'll I will install filter, see how much it is getting, then prolly just do the power flush and replace with elc. I talked to a ford tech and they said it pushes in distilled and chemicals, sucks out coolant. Then they power rinse with distilled, then they pump in whatever I want to get 50/50 while sucking out distilled.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7  
Old 01-04-2012, 03:23 PM
Powerstroke Techie

 

Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Fayette/Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 5,336
Thanks: 23
Thanked 83 Times in 74 Posts
Feedback Score: 4 reviews
If they're trying to sell you a BG flush for your 6.0 just walk away. You're better off doing it yourself. Atleast you'll know it gets done right

who knows what unqualified jackass is gonna get handed your keys and told to flush this.

If you can't already tell I hate menu flushes. They don't belong anywhere near a truck
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8  
Old 01-04-2012, 03:33 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 

Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 317
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Lol that's scary coming from you.... Maybe you are right. Just seems like a huge pain to capture and get rid of all that coolant during flushing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9  
Old 01-04-2012, 04:54 PM
Premium Member
 

Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Monroe, Georgia
Posts: 3,864
Thanks: 1
Thanked 21 Times in 20 Posts
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
BG Products, Inc.

Check it out for yourself. I like BG, I use BG, I trust the BG products that I sell to my customers. This service is not one that I sell.

I don't think this service is going to do what you want done.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10  
Old 01-04-2012, 05:04 PM
Serving Our Country!
 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: goldsboro, north carolina
Posts: 3,888
Thanks: 2
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
read the link in my sig for flushing procedures.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:06 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
Garage Plus, Vendor Tools vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.

vB.Sponsors